If I set that standard for the August 11th March at Charlottesville then it passes, but not if I apply it to the August 12th. The August 11th rally was, after all, funded and organized by Neo-Nazi groups with Neo-Nazi speakers.

When you say it's a Marxist rally that implies the central focus of the rally is Marxist principles after all, so that is the standard

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 28 2020 11:44pm

and black lives matter rallies are funded and organized by marxist groups with marxist leaders. Do we have to split hairs over the fine distinctions of what specific political grievance the neonazis and marxists are marching for on any particular day? I think its pretty easy to say that people who march with swastikas are nazis and those marching with a hammer and sickle are commies. I mean, if we want to treat Richard Spencer charitably we could make the distinction of which elements of his followers were white nationalists vs white supremacists vs alt-right, who were legitimate neo-nazis and who just opposed PC outrage towards statues, and who was chanting 'jews will not replace us' and who just marched along with a tiki torch to go with the flow of the crowd. Maybe they though they were chanting boo-urns.

We don't really need to split hairs. The August 11th rally was held by white supremacists for the explicit purpose of defending confederate statues as a symbol of white supremacy. It was lead by white supremacists, organized by white supremacists, and held specifically around the values of white supremacy. While every attendee was definitely not a white supremacist it is undeniable that the point of the rally August 11th rally was to show support for white supremacist ideals. All of this is besides the point though. I'm just showing how I can apply this standard evenly and still get the conclusion I have said before, because I didn't come to this conclusion and then apply reasoning in reverse to get to that conclusion.

Meanwhile if I assume the BLM rallies are organized by Marxists, the subject of the BLM protests is specifically about police reform, racial inequality, etc. etc. I haven't seen anything to indicate that the central subject of the rallies has been based on Marxist ideology specifically.

Have you seen their "lists of demands"? Sure looks like their central purpose echos Marxist ideology.
You're making a big leap in your comparison by starting off that its held by white supremacists (yup), organized by white supremacists (yup) and held for the specifically for the 'values of white supremacy' (the stretch). You're making the sticking point being the specific central purpose and political message of the rallies, but applying that to the August 11th rally still leaves you with people who were rallying "against the removal of historical statues". Their permit and self-described purpose was to oppose the removal of the Robert E Lee statue, not to make any demands of institutionalized white supremacy. So to make your comparison work, you have to conflate "anyone who opposes taking down the statues" with "advancing white supremacist ideals". Yet at the same time, you're trying to split hairs about whether the black lives matter movement ideologically shares its ideals with its avowed Marxist founder's communist beliefs.

If we're going to make a stretch of ideological purpose, theres a much smaller gap to bridge between the BLM movement politics and Marxist ideology, and those who oppose taking down statues and avowed neo-nazism.

I haven't seen their demands, but I've never put a lot of stock in that kind of thing. When you negotiate you ask for the moon and strike things from there. It's not surprising that a list of demands would have outlandish things that will never pass.

So your argument that the August 11th rally wasn't a rally centered around white supremacist values is boiled down to "they didn't write 'support white supremacy' on the permit application". Okay buddy.

If you watch the video, you can see an old woman yelling, to multiple separate parties that ride by. It seems more realistic that that old guy started shouting "white power", as a mockery and to spite what the people were shouting at them. Especially considering, the man yelling at them started saying "Racists, racists" and then the man looked at him and decided to start yelling "white power"


Still inappropriate and wrong for a president to retweet and he should not have done it due to that statement being there.

Good thing he deleted it.

Also what evidence is there of his obvious dislikes of black people?

All I've seen was the employment fiasco, which there was nothing to show he was involved with that at all. Considering he's a billionaire, the idea of him micro-managing every part of employees is a joke. That's like saying the CEO of the Walmart company is responsible for a situation with an employee at a store.

That doesn't seem to meet the standard of "obvious dislike" of black people.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jun 29 2020 03:26am

seriously? lol ok step 1 look at discrimination claims before he was even president.. This could take days..
fun

Qft






You guys will just make excuses like battered house wives when it is substanciated.




A neonazi terrorist drove a car into a crowd of people in Charlottesville. A boogaloo brown shirt has killed a fed.

Neonazis have a kill count this year.




These dudes haven't wrote that in their permit since they marched through the village of Skokie.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie#:~:text=I,%20XIV-,National%20Socialist%20Party%20of%20America%20v.,speech%20and%20freedom%20of%20assembly.

Same dudes.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 29 2020 06:57am

Sounds like Marxists have killed more people in the past few hours

Wait what? this can't be real.. the R has already shown that having the word Socialist in your "tagline" makes you a democrat and Hitler was Democrat due to this? So hard to keep up with R changing of racist values

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Jun 29 2020 07:20am