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Jun 19 2020 05:19pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 19 2020 03:09pm)
The very idea of trusting the chinese to create, enforce, and upkeep IP protections is silly. i wont entertain the idea that it can be done in any meaningful way, period. difficult to get is still a LONG way away from where i think it is in reality. a mile off in fact. it's impossible short of a world war we defeat them in, then occupy, then rebuild their entire society.


In this case, we need to fight fire with fire. Penalize Chinese firms in retaliation, levy tariffs against Chinese goods, and ban collaboration with Chinese entities. We need a coordinated effort to demonize the CCP. It must be toxic for politicians to be conciliatory towards the regime.

Western leaders are on a time clock and can voted out of office, sure, but on the other hand, our leaders aren't gambling with their lives. If Trump loses, he gets banished to a plush, wealthy retirement. Whereas if the dice roll bad, Xi Jinping loses his head. It does us a disservice to discuss the benefits of dictatorship without considering the drawbacks. If the Mandate of Heaven is lost, it's heads on pikes for all of them.

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Jun 19 2020 05:37pm
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In this case, we need to fight fire with fire. Penalize Chinese firms in retaliation, levy tariffs against Chinese goods, and ban collaboration with Chinese entities. We need a coordinated effort to demonize the CCP. It must be toxic for politicians to be conciliatory towards the regime.

Western leaders are on a time clock and can voted out of office, sure, but on the other hand, our leaders aren't gambling with their lives. If Trump loses, he gets banished to a plush, wealthy retirement. Whereas if the dice roll bad, Xi Jinping loses his head. It does us a disservice to discuss the benefits of dictatorship without considering the drawbacks. If the Mandate of Heaven is lost, it's heads on pikes for all of them.

yeah, this dynamic isnt fully understood in the west and this gives the ccp a considerable competitive advantage
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Jun 19 2020 06:20pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jun 20 2020 07:19am)
In this case, we need to fight fire with fire. Penalize Chinese firms in retaliation, levy tariffs against Chinese goods, and ban collaboration with Chinese entities. We need a coordinated effort to demonize the CCP. It must be toxic for politicians to be conciliatory towards the regime.

Western leaders are on a time clock and can voted out of office, sure, but on the other hand, our leaders aren't gambling with their lives. If Trump loses, he gets banished to a plush, wealthy retirement. Whereas if the dice roll bad, Xi Jinping loses his head. It does us a disservice to discuss the benefits of dictatorship without considering the drawbacks. If the Mandate of Heaven is lost, it's heads on pikes for all of them.


the dynastic cycle ended over 100 years ago bud. no chinese person believes in the mandate of heaven anymore.

and if things go wrong (things go wrong in china all the time) only underlings are ousted. xi will be in his position until old age. you know under his leadership they ended term limits for chairmen, right?

This post was edited by KungPeriodFu on Jun 19 2020 06:20pm
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 19 2020 02:53pm)
I don't care for the alpha act. What's happening on the trade front is tangible and has been moving the stock market, something that's a real gauge if something is impactful or not.

Challenging China by openly criticizing them on HK, south China sea, tariffs. Tariffs are tangible and visible but i guess some dear diary line from Bolton is more convincing for you.

I'm a foreigner dumbass, and you're the one that was posting gleefully that your daughter has a type and she's into black boys.




If the Chinese gov't was on board with IP, it would largely happen. They only pretend to be on board because for the last 20-30 years it's Chinese companies largely benefiting at the expense of western companies that decided to form 'partnerships' thinking the Chinese will honor non-disclosures or thinking China's justice system was going to be objective in judging Chinese vs foreign company cases.

We can't enforce it unilaterally but countries justice systems can be on the same page, that's why you have a pretty symbiotic corporate world order in places like North America, western Europe, Australia, etc. These guys learned to play by the same rules and at least somewhat fair when it comes to IP. Just because it's difficult to get doesn't mean it shouldn't be strived for.


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Quote (Tyrantus @ Jun 20 2020 12:23am)
No. We have the polar opposite types of idiots. The alt-right ultra-nationalists such as you. You type the drivel you do because it's bad form to outright type "I'm a racist idiot that doesn't care what happens outside of my insulated microcosm."

Spoiler alert: your fringe group has always been a huge problem, and unfortunately the solution has always been education yet can never be bothered to actually take classes or even travel abroad for extended periods of time to see how other human beings run systems.


You're completely wrong. I have nothing to do with the far right and I believe in sound politics and balance cuz that's ALWAYS what works best in the end. And we don't even have any of the people you mentioned on JSP cuz they're on their own forums somewhere on the dark web.

BTW I have traveled more than you I can guarantee you that. I've spent years of my life down under, and years of my life in SE Azia. I've traveled to central America and have seen first hand the situation over there and why it's impossible to just open the borders as idiot leftists would like.

I encourage you to look around for yourself instead of typing your wild rants and accusations and maybe you'll catch on to the fact that idiotic leftist policies like for example opening the borders will cause a mass migration of a proportion that will overwhelm the nation.

The drivel posted in this sub is coming from wild SJW woke types lefties who believe they are better than conservative people yet are completely fucking clueless. You included.

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Jun 20 2020 12:01pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jun 20 2020 02:39am)
You're completely wrong. I have nothing to do with the far right and I believe in sound politics and balance cuz that's ALWAYS what works best in the end. And we don't even have any of the people you mentioned on JSP cuz they're on their own forums somewhere on the dark web.

BTW I have traveled more than you I can guarantee you that. I've spent years of my life down under, and years of my life in SE Azia. I've traveled to central America and have seen first hand the situation over there and why it's impossible to just open the borders as idiot leftists would like.

I encourage you to look around for yourself instead of typing your wild rants and accusations and maybe you'll catch on to the fact that idiotic leftist policies like for example opening the borders will cause a mass migration of a proportion that will overwhelm the nation.

The drivel posted in this sub is coming from wild SJW woke types lefties who believe they are better than conservative people yet are completely fucking clueless. You included.


It's always 'wild rants' when it's the so-called 'SJW' side. Yet a few weeks ago you make a thread ranting about there being too much influence of women in games. Yeah, it's safe to assume you're retarded and your safe space is the internet. :rofl:

Go travel abroad some more. You clearly have the worldly perspective that is limited to your bedroom.
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Jun 20 2020 02:29pm
Quote (Tyrantus @ Jun 20 2020 08:01pm)
It's always 'wild rants' when it's the so-called 'SJW' side. Yet a few weeks ago you make a thread ranting about there being too much influence of women in games. Yeah, it's safe to assume you're retarded and your safe space is the internet. :rofl:

Go travel abroad some more. You clearly have the worldly perspective that is limited to your bedroom.


Dude why you fail so hard :wacko:

The fucking thread you mention is about an existing game franchise being butchered by his wokeness Neil Cuckmann you should inform yourself before posting nonsense.

The story was butchered and beloved characters from the first game thrashed. It's reported that Cuckmann even went so far to fire Amy Hennig who apparently didn't agree with this wild spin. Google Amy Hennig will help you learn something about these woke BS artists like Cuckmann.

While you're at it, read up on working conditions at Naughty Dog, it's an embarrassment for any lefty to see how they treat their workers.

Again you're just completely clueless guess why I call your stupid attacks rants.

Oh and first you accuse me of living in my own microcosm and when I shove it in your face you make a 180 and now "I should travel abroad some more"?

You're completely fucking unhinged just like a typical lefty.

lol at your stupidity, git gud


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Jun 20 2020 02:33pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jun 21 2020 06:29am)
Dude why you fail so hard :wacko:

The fucking thread you mention is about an existing game franchise being butchered by his wokeness Neil Cuckmann you should inform yourself before posting nonsense.

The story was butchered and beloved characters from the first game thrashed. It's reported that Cuckmann even went so far to fire Amy Hennig who apparently didn't agree with this wild spin. Google Amy Hennig will help you learn something about these woke BS artists like Cuckmann.

While you're at it, read up on working conditions at Naughty Dog, it's an embarrassment for any lefty to see how they treat their workers.

Again you're just completely clueless guess why I call your stupid attacks rants.

Oh and first you accuse me of living in my own microcosm and when I shove it in your face you make a 180 and now "I should travel abroad some more"?

You're completely fucking unhinged just like a typical lefty.

lol at your stupidity, git gud


I have heard from a source I trust that this game is amazing, unlike you he actually played it.
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Jun 20 2020 02:40pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 20 2020 10:33pm)
I have heard from a source I trust that this game is amazing, unlike you he actually played it.


I've seen bits of streams just to see players' reactions regarding the story. I've seen enough. I'm not touching it because it sucks and I certainly won't give these woke devs a single credit or dollar for trashing this franchise.

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Quote (Djunior @ Jun 21 2020 06:40am)
I've seen bits of streams just to see players' reactions regarding the story. I've seen enough. I'm not touching it because it sucks and I certainly won't give these woke devs a single credit or dollar for trashing this franchise.


They will be fine, the free market will determine the games worth.
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