Economic conditions today, or even 7, 10, or 15 years ago, are absolutely outstanding compared to those compared to the greatest generation, or even boomers, or GenX, or "the lost" between gen x and Millennials, etc.

The problem in economics is that regulation and pricing has pushed the current generation to a servant status. That's not a result of the system, that's a result of current government, made up of boomer assholes, protecting boomer assholes.

The Greatest generation built the infrastructure, be it the roads, hospitals, schools, you name it. They built houses and did everything that their boomer children would need. They taught their children how to get forward in life. In turn, the Boomers utilized that infrastructure, defunded it's expansion to pad their own pay, refused to teach their children a fucking thing and insisted they had to go to school to learn it, where other boomers taught them that everything their parents did was the fault of the world today.

Meanwhile, they posited the idea that only experts on an idea could speak to the idea, and only those who passed their classes could be experts, and you could only pass if you agreed with their ideals.

And now, we have today. Where scientists are discounted in their findings because boomer politicians with no scientific education say they're wrong. Hydroxycholiriquin is good assuming no heart issues, because it helps prevent a certain bonding agent from activating with covid? "HEATHEN!"

No, you lilly nancy fuckers clearly haven't dealt with boomers. They raised me. And they're lying shits who'll use and abuse you, lie through their teeth, but never once look out for any interest but their own.

I don't get marxism or mao worship, we need a new system not one that already failed.

said system has never really been tried it wasn’t real *LAUGH OUT LOUD*

That is a fact for marxism, because of a fundamental flaw in the ideal itself.
It doesn't account for self interest and greed, someone has to be in charge and as often as not that person will lever their position to the benefit of friends, family or themselves.

I mean, you've literally just expressed that socialism as defined by Marx can't work.

Correct.
I have a rough draft for a democratic socialist system that could work in my country, but its pretty far from marxism.

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I'd be interested in seeing it. The human element is hard to overlook. People'd rather play games and have fun than produce anything, when push comes to shove. So what kind of successful nation you can run where not only necessities such as food and shelter are provided simply for existing, but healthcare, entertainment, power, clothes, etc.

Well, if you're comfortable posting it, would love to read it.

Socialist systems ignore the existence of human nature. None of them will ever work.

Stop legislating prosperity and it will become as common as the grass on its own.

That would be my standard go-to. But if someone claims they have a workable socialist solution that takes human nature into account, I'm more than willing to explore the option.

Basically we nationalise our VAST resources, create a sovereign wealth fund and use that as the basis for a negative income tax that caps at 20%, you are ALWAYS better off working and more work will always be more money, but no one is poor and everyone has a decent standard of living.
No corruption will be possible because the entire economy isn't centrally planned just the resources industry and it will be heavily monitored.

This could easily work in australia because we have some of the largest mineral and gas seams in the world and a tiny population.
Instead we make a very small amount of oligarchs multi billionaires and make them pay about 4% in royalties.

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