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May 15 2020 10:38am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 15 2020 10:12am)
The president is right in that more testing means more confirmed cases and thus makes a country look worse.

He is awfully wrong, however, when he claims that the US is doing more testing than anyone else. In reality, testing in the US is very lacking, and the reason the US numbers are looking so bad in comparison to other countries is because it has handled the crisis badly. Which is on him and his administration, no one else.

Furthermore, he is awfully wrong when he implies that the US should do less testing. The truth is that extensive testing and tracing is the only option to have a shot at safely reopening the country without having cases spike again.
Just think about it: if a country was able to test its entire population twice a week, it would be able to erradicate the virus in no time. Testing is paramount, and Trump arguing against it because of perceived bad optics is a fucking stupid and short-sighted take.


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Over 4 million more tests performed than Russia, the next closest country. 7 million more tests performed than testing powerhouse Germany.
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May 15 2020 10:40am
Quote (Giannis @ May 15 2020 11:33am)
Hmm 🤔 interesting, wouldn’t sign language have written language limitations? Would think that could be problematic for situations where sign language isn’t as effective in communicating globally. One such example is publishing books or scholarly articles to reach masses


yes, it wouldnt translate to the internet unless we came up with a symbolic way to write it. and even then a book would be 5000 pages.

but for in person communication if we all knew sign language u could travel to any nation on earth and talk to anyone.
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May 15 2020 10:46am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 15 2020 11:40am)
yes, it wouldnt translate to the internet unless we came up with a symbolic way to write it. and even then a book would be 5000 pages.

but for in person communication if we all knew sign language u could travel to any nation on earth and talk to anyone.



I think it’s important for blockchain technology to have smart contracts and data in English also, in person communication tho I wonder how ALS ranks in difficulty for English speakers to learn. Languages like Mandarin and Arabic are considered very difficult for English speakers to learn in adulthood, while languages like Spanish and French are easy on the difficulty scale.
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May 15 2020 10:47am
Quote (Santara @ May 15 2020 11:38am)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Over 4 million more tests performed than Russia, the next closest country. 7 million more tests performed than testing powerhouse Germany.



Tests per 1m population is more relevant than total testing performed. As evidenced in your source, the US does not perform the most tests per 1m even tho it has the biggest recorded outbreak (yes China I know)
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May 15 2020 10:52am
Quote (Giannis @ May 15 2020 11:46am)
I think it’s important for blockchain technology to have smart contracts and data in English also, in person communication tho I wonder how ALS ranks in difficulty for English speakers to learn. Languages like Mandarin and Arabic are considered very difficult for English speakers to learn in adulthood, while languages like Spanish and French are easy on the difficulty scale.


ALS is comparatively easier than arabic or asian languages. because many of the signs look like what they represent. not all of them, but many. whereas the asian word for tree doesnt look like a tree, its just a word u have to learn in many different tenses.
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May 15 2020 11:29am
I didn't understand illiteracy or how it was even possible to know a language without knowing its alphabet or spelling then i lived in a foreign country for two years. Luckily most of Germany is polyglot.

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May 15 2020 11:43am
Quote (Santara @ May 15 2020 11:38am)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Over 4 million more tests performed than Russia, the next closest country. 7 million more tests performed than testing powerhouse Germany.


Not really a good way to look at the data.

The king of testing was South Korea, because they got the testing infrastructure set up way earlier and therefore needed to do less tests.

To see who did "the most tests" in a meaningful way you would have to weight earlier testing higher than later testing with the value of later testing dropping off exponentially.

Also, if you adjust for population size, we tested less than the next 5 countries on the list of most tested.

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May 15 2020 12:12pm
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Not really a good way to look at the data.

The king of testing was South Korea, because they got the testing infrastructure set up way earlier and therefore needed to do less tests.

To see who did "the most tests" in a meaningful way you would have to weight earlier testing higher than later testing with the value of later testing dropping off exponentially.

Also, if you adjust for population size, we tested less than the next 5 countries on the list of most tested.


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Tests per 1m population is more relevant than total testing performed. As evidenced in your source, the US does not perform the most tests per 1m even tho it has the biggest recorded outbreak (yes China I know)


And I wouldn't disagree with that, but it's also a matter of perspective. From the president's point of view, and he's not wrong here, we've simply tested more people.

For example, the US is the largest economy in the world, and its people the wealthiest. But not per capita. And the president didn't use any phrase to indicate he meant we're doing the best job at testing, he uses phrases to note we've tested more. Because we have.
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May 15 2020 12:15pm
Quote (Santara @ May 15 2020 01:12pm)
And I wouldn't disagree with that, but it's also a matter of perspective. From the president's point of view, and he's not wrong here, we've simply tested more people.

For example, the US is the largest economy in the world, and its people the wealthiest. But not per capita. And the president didn't use any phrase to indicate he meant we're doing the best job at testing, he uses phrases to note we've tested more. Because we have.


but "doing the most testing" isn't "have done the most tests"
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May 15 2020 12:22pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 15 2020 01:15pm)
but "doing the most testing" isn't "have done the most tests"


How is it not? I mean, I'm pretty good with English here, I see that as a "difference" without a distinction.
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