Are you afraid of getting into a vehicle?

In 2018 there were 297 murders using rifles, compared to 235 with shotguns, 443 with clubs/hammers, 672 unarmed, 1515 with knives/blades and 6603 with handguns
On penishats comparison, its like a porn star vs a virgin

I don't think banning rifles for safety but ignoring handguns is a logically consistent argument as they constitute the vast majority of gun deaths. If you're going for the guns then go for all the guns.

Hammers, knives, cars, medications and all other methods of killing that you're referring to analogously have a functional purpose in civilian life, unlike guns. Let the farmers have the guns for killing animals and take the guns from everyone else.

We talk about murder, but what about the suicides that are 2-3x more prevalent and could be prevented if people didn't have such an easy, painless way out? Those lives matter equally, and they're mostly white men too, so your types should actually care a bit.

The reality is, however, that nobody would be stupid enough to ban all guns in America because it's so deeply ingrained in the culture that guns are needed to defend people against the government, which hasn't even applied since about 1880.

This post was edited by dro94 on May 7 2020 03:20pm

The reality is that nobody would be stupid enough to ban all guns in America because a too large portion of their population is armed to the teeth and would start a war if anyone came for their guns.
The US have been in a state of "cold civil war" for quite some time, and coming for their guns would be the most surefire way to turn it from cold to hot.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 9 2020 07:14am

How many via cigarette? I'm curious what Philip Morris's kill count is.

Trump got his first on-record kill this year. Harder to come by for him now that Epstein is gone.

How many of those murders were self inflicted gunshot wounds to the head via pistol? They probably count those.

Nobody is toeing cobain style that never caught on.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 9 2020 07:23am

You're implying that if guns didn't exist then the people serious about suicides wouldn't go ahead with it anyways. Finding a 10 story building and swan diving onto the asphalt is just as painless and much more accessible than a gun.

Regardless, success rates with guns are incredibly high. Higher than most other methods. Of course not all those people would not eventually commit suicide anyway, but I think it's definitely fair to say some wouldn't be successfull.

Uhhh no lol. very few people have convenient access to a 10 story building with jump access

Just like success rates from jumping off a tall building are very high. Rate of success here is pointless to consider. The people that are serious about committing suicide aren't going to give up just because they failed the first time.



Considering most people live in urban/suburban environment, a 10+ story building is no more than 10-20 minutes away by car. I could much easily find a building rather than finding a gun right now.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on May 9 2020 11:26am

Does your 10 story building have access to jump from? People are probably going to stop you unless it's in a private area.

I've moved to a very populated city within the last year, and I couldn't think of a place I'd have jump access, and that goes the same for literally everybody in my state and probably everybody else for the surrounding couple hundred miles.

The majority of the population of the United States doesn't live in large cities with publicly accessible 10 story buildings.


However if I wanted a gun I could literally just pop over to a pawn shop and get one in an actual 10 minutes, then I could let it sit in my drawer until I got the courage or the recklessness to actually pull the trigger.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 9 2020 11:29am