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Jul 31 2019 09:17am
Quote (majorblood @ Jul 31 2019 11:14am)
the united states holds the individual higher than the commune, the underlying philosophy that influenced this is called liberalism
the founding fathers were influenced by john locke and his ideas and they are woven into the constitution, this isn't some anarchy thing.


The US is a democratic republic. Take that commie crap you've been reading and use it to level a table or something.



/e


Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 31 2019 11:16am)
we brought up the 1st Amendment, you went into street signs and public signs. said signs arent language, only words are. so i asked if sign language is speech, you responded "sign language isnt a sign", and dodged my question.

then YOU asked if non-english street signs should be allowed, i said they are allowed, and gave several examples.

you're steering the ship, dont blame me for not calling out a massive field of icebergs.



You're 100% right. My mistake was talking to you.

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Jul 31 2019 09:18am
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 31 2019 10:17am)
The US is a democratic republic. Take that commie crapyou've been reading and use it to level a table or something.


aka the US constitution.

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You're 100% right.


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Jul 31 2019 09:18am
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 31 2019 08:17am)
The US is a democratic republic. Take that commie crap you've been reading and use it to level a table or something.


???

what commie crap dude? liberalism isn't communism, it's literally what the united states is founded on. the rights of the individual is the opposite of communism, you are the one supporting communist authoritarian country while i'm supporting the rights of the individual.
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Jul 31 2019 09:20am
Quote (majorblood @ Jul 31 2019 11:18am)
???

what commie crap dude? liberalism isn't communism, it's literally what the united states is founded on. the rights of the individual is the opposite of communism, you are the one supporting communist authoritarian country while i'm supporting the rights of the individual.




You're equivocating. The US is a Democratic Republic. We vote. It's more or less majority rule.


/e Yes, the individual is protected. But the country is built on the... vote.

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Jul 31 2019 09:20am
he's in a tailspin boys.

Quote (Ghot @ Jul 31 2019 10:20am)
You're equivocating. The US is a Democratic Republic. We vote. It's more or less majority rule.


/e Yes, the individual is protected. But the country is built on the... vote.


the usa is built on the bill of rights and constitution.

regular people didnt even get the right until much later, let alone women and minorities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_voting_rights_in_the_United_States

learn your history grandpa

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Jul 31 2019 09:26am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 31 2019 11:20am)
he's in a tailspin boys.



the usa is built on the bill of rights and constitution.

regular people didnt even get the right until much later, let alone women and minorities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_voting_rights_in_the_United_States

learn your history grandpa




Which was decided on, by the vote, of those in power at the time... the founding fathers.

From your own link...

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1789: grants the states the power to set voting requirements. Generally, states limited this right to property-owning or tax-paying white males (about 6% of the population).[1]


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The 1828 presidential election was the first in which non-property-holding white males could vote in the vast majority of states.





Why do you even speak?

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#77
Jul 31 2019 09:39am
JFC, this has got to be one of the dumbest takes on free speech I've ever seen. SIGNS are a physical representation of speech, the same way books are, art is, the Internet is, etc. These have ALL been held as being protected by the First Amendment. And since the US has no official language, it doesn't matter what language said signs are in. If I choose to express myself in English, French, Swedish, or whatever, the government CANNOT infringe upon my expression, REGARDLESS of the language in which I present it, or the medium in which I convey it.
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Jul 31 2019 09:40am
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Jul 31 2019 09:41am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Jul 31 2019 08:39am)
JFC, this has got to be one of the dumbest takes on free speech I've ever seen. SIGNS are a physical representation of speech, the same way books are, art is, the Internet is, etc. These have ALL been held as being protected by the First Amendment. And since the US has no official language, it doesn't matter what language said signs are in. If I choose to express myself in English, French, Swedish, or whatever, the government CANNOT infringe upon my expression, REGARDLESS of the language in which I present it, or the medium in which I convey it.


yeah but what if ghot doesn't like it?
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Jul 31 2019 09:41am
Quote (majorblood @ Jul 31 2019 10:41am)
yeah but what if ghot doesn't like it?


Too bad so sad.
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