Why is this still going on?

The rules for slavery are given to Moses in exodus by God himself immediately after the ten commandments. In great detail it is explained to Moses that you 'may take slaves from those nations around you', which explicitly does support enslavement. It is also described how one might sell themselves or their daughters into slavery and how the offspring of any slave couple belong to the master thus enslaving the newborn infant. The Bible, and God specifically, endorses slavery and the enslavement of people previously not slaves. If it was that God was against slavery then why would he follow up the ten commandments with the rules for slavery instead of simply giving an eleventh commandment that just says 'dont enslave people'?

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privileged lefties filled with unwarranted self importance never change

Would you guys agree that Christianity in the ancient world gave people 'worth' unlike any other system or religion? It said to people in slavery that; You're a child of God, created in the image of God, you are equal and beloved. Jesus came to those people who the world saw as worthless and offered them the higest of status that the men of the world could not see. Those blind in ideology, power and money. The Bible does teach political issues, especially in the Old Testament; the Moral Law, but the main message is to free people of this world spiritually, eternally.
So why are you people so caught up in triviality and refuse to see the wide perspective of living? If it was not for Christianity, the world might never have gotten out of tribalism and honor cultures into individualism and the later FN human rights. The world might never have got on a path towards science.
The Bible surely describe human errors, it doesn't try to hide that. But agian, it's not the main issue, your Soul is.



This post was edited by LazyDazy on Mar 8 2019 07:20am

I honestly hope the religious types are wrong, and the atheist types are correct, when it comes to souls. I can't help but to find the idea of an undying soul terrifying. Not due to heaven or hell, but simply due to true immortality. There is no point at which the human mind can take in that much time and not end in madness.

If there is a soul, truly, I tend to think the only way it would be functional without destroying your mind would be repetitive wipes, something akin to reincarnation.

Guess it's easier to get out of tribalism when you slaughter all the tribes

What do you think about the idea of those ancient Israelites being compared to a sort of chosen army of paladins, like in our beloved Diablo game? If you look at those other tribes, their religion and worship to Baal involved human sacrifice. I picture those as Goatmen, Fallen's, and Corrupted Rogues.
So in a world of human beings with free will, there will be wicked nations that would be so far from reach, that God would be perfectly just by allowing his chosen people as an instrument of judgment and as a seed for his people to flourish so that the Messiah could be born to serve human kind.

You could use LoTR as well in your imagination, I like picturing King David as Aragon.



Life is like a fairytale, full of mystery so we might as well use imagery and imagination. Why is there a universe, why did a Man die and rise from the dead 2000 years ago? God is reaching out, and serving human kind. A free gift. Seems pretty unreal, life is pretty unreal after all. I understand people's compulsion and anger towards religion, Christianity however is not about moral teaching but of relationship with the creator of The Universe

This post was edited by LazyDazy on Mar 8 2019 11:27am

Immortality and eternity without the relationship in Jesus is truly terrifying indeed. Have you read some scripture that might help in dealing with your concerns? The way I see Hell is not an eternity in fire, but an eternity separated from God, from Love. An eternity
of nothingness, much like the atheist view. That utterly terrifies me, and I'm struck in wonder that there's actually a loving God calling for each and all of us.
As C S Lewis famously said "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."



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You and I will have a hard time, friend. I understand that you're a true believer. I'm very much not. I will give you the benefit of the doubt right until you drown me in dogma. [fake edit: Initially, I typod and wrote vodka there. Good thing I proofread. You drown me in vodka, I will ALWAYS give you the benefit of the doubt.]

Here's the issue with time: You begin to live as much in your memories as in your present. Dementia, insanity, or simple unwillingness to acknowledge the now are the inevitable results of immortality.

You can remove all pain, fear, etc. and it won't change the above points.

I can understand, but why would the action of men take away the credibility of the Bible? The Bible even warns against wolf's in shepard's clothing. Paul in the early days had to deal with corruption from the very start in which he express in those letters that he wrote.

It is to be expected in a world of men and free will. The world is filled with hipocrites, narcicists, psychopaths and child abusers they will infiltrate everywhere because they can

This post was edited by LazyDazy on Mar 8 2019 12:33pm