So you are justifying iraq 2 which started in 2003 with your 2017 Isis map ?
Doggo is good with time travelling, CU.

Yes, I mistakenly thought you were referring to the reintroduction to troops in 2014. Not the initial killing of Hussain.

Which, instead of having a dictator, did give rise to militant groups. I too, am skeptical on the long term results of this.
In a perfect world, a new government would have came into place that would have had a beneficial effect.

But.
Even if a centered government is in place, it could become tyrannical again, or become overwhelmed by another militant group.

Different cultures. It probably never will be perfect to accustom a Western culture.

Either way, you claim dodging, yet this whole conversation is a dodge to the initial conversation about America as a super power and the power it holds from a military standpoint. None of these wars are traditional style wars, it's about fighting radicalized sub-groups. Not an entire country. Thats an entirely different thing versus traditional warfare. If the United States wanted the entire country gone, it would be gone.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jan 21 2019 09:22am

Overall, if we want to talk about history and how much the United States "sucks", after seeing your country, I'll just leave this here.



This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jan 21 2019 09:47am

No, I was referring to some simple facts, such as promoting stupidity, nihilism, etc.



I am really not sure in which world you live in LOL

US financed qatar whom financed ISIS. They also financed al qaida so whats ur point scrub
They had all the possible economic interests into ravaging syria.
Ofc they failed. Big weapons into stupid hands, does not always do the trick bro.

Not to mention US is friend with SA which is the second or top source of terrorism in the middle east. That country is still living into paleolithic era with beheading womans etc.

Axe of evil : US/Israhell/SA

This post was edited by Melatonina on Jan 21 2019 11:41am

You definitely didn't read all my posts in this thread.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jan 21 2019 12:05pm

sry my jugular blood pressure went to 1600 when I red this

"Can you imagine what it would be like if we didn't intervene? Isis would be much more powerful."

I know history is hard to apprehend, but you know france has like 1300+ years of existence compared to usa.
As example war against england lasted 100 years. It was like everyone in europe trying to dismantle the country. Know how it ended bro ?

This post was edited by Melatonina on Jan 21 2019 01:46pm

........... It could be he's using a more modern but still monumental event as it better reflects current global positions compared to the dated reference you provided above.

No it's how you prevent the other side from winning. By not making them able to completely take over land. It wasn't a matter of defending a line, but defending the whole area you've taken "control" over... There are always "gooks" in the bushes. The resolve was lacking a bit of strategy, ending up in trying to kill more of them than could be reproduced. A long term strategy costing more than the US was willing to pay, including troop morality. And hence, they left, escaping the Stronghold Saigon, just before it was taken over, called Ho Chi Min, today. Communism evolving to the Country it is today. For a large part capitalistic, and an amazing culture to interact with. The new caves are cool too btw



Hehe.. Making it failed from the start? To much anti communism propaganda ? 2 million lives wasted ?

This post was edited by Knoppie on Jan 21 2019 02:05pm