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Jul 21 2018 08:15am
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Ah yes... before the days of Russiagate, all of us Americans had informed, nuanced debate about important political topics. That's why Fox News, Breitbart, and MSNBC only gained popularity post-November 2016. That's why Trump got elected of course, because he's the poster child of nuanced, knowledgeable discussion of policy.
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Jul 21 2018 08:29am
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Nonsensical ramblings about your obsession with Hillary? That's not informed or nuanced debate.
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Jul 21 2018 08:36am
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Nonsensical ramblings about your obsession with Hillary? That's not informed or nuanced debate.


There's miles of debate in all these topics. Only difference between me and you, is that I don't have a whole passel of Hillary lost deniers following me around parroting each others BS like the peanut gallery does.

All the accusations of Trump for various things, all started when Hillary lost. This was immediately followed by support of "anything" we can possibly find, that would make it seem like Hillary lost because of anything but her own failure to understand and fire up her base.


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There's miles of debate in all these topics. Only difference between me and you, is that I don't have a whole passel of Hillary lost deniers following me around parroting each others BS like the peanut gallery does.

All the accusations of Trump for various things, all started when Hillary lost. This was immediately followed by support of "anything" we can possibly find, that would make it seem like Hillary lost because of anything but her own failure to understand and fire up her base.


I openly said a couple years ago (as one of the very few public Hillary voters) that I did not think there was much there with Russia

since then it has been shown I was wrong and there was much more there than I (as an actual Hillary voter) predicted

I've also said I did not think they would get him on collusion or obstruction as that's an uphill battle

I still feel that way but the evidence that has been shown up to today far exceeds what I ever thought would come to light

You're delusional and just make up things with no facts or integrity behind your opinions, projections, and statements.
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Jul 21 2018 09:11am
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I openly said a couple years ago (as one of the very few public Hillary voters) that I did not think there was much there with Russia

since then it has been shown I was wrong and there was much more there than I (as an actual Hillary voter) predicted

I've also said I did not think they would get him on collusion or obstruction as that's an uphill battle

I still feel that way but the evidence that has been shown up to today far exceeds what I ever thought would come to light

You're delusional and just make up things with no facts or integrity behind your opinions, projections, and statements.



Exactly what I am accusing the LEFT of. In fact, it's so screamingly obvious that I'm surprised that everyone hasn't picked up on it by now.

ie... Russia has been trying to influence the US with propaganda since the mid 1900's and maybe even before that. No one doubts this at all. The ludicrous part of the LEFT's ravings is that in 2016, all of a sudden it is Trump's fault.
The same Trump that Russia refused when he wanted to build a Trump tower in Moscow.

Fact: Hillary won the popular vote.
the Left: Trump and Russia are in cahoots to sway the people in Trump's favor.
Fact: If this was true, then the Russians did a pretty shitty job cause Hillary won the popular vote.
Fact: The Electoral College, aka Congressmen, (not the American people) put Trump in office.
Fact: The Electoral College could have easily prevented Trump from taking office.
the Left: See line 2
the Left: See line 2
the Left: See line 2, etc., etc., etc.

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Exactly what I am accusing the LEFT of. In fact, it's so screamingly obvious that I'm surprised that everyone hasn't picked up on it by now.

ie... Russia has been trying to influence the US with propaganda since the mid 1900's and maybe even before that. No one doubts this at all. The ludicrous part of the LEFT's ravings is that in 2016, all of a sudden it is Trump's fault.
The same Trump that Russia refused when he wanted to build a Trump tower in Moscow.

Fact: Hillary won the popular vote.
the Left: Trump and Russia are in cahoots to sway the people in Trump's favor.
Fact: If this was true, then the Russians did a pretty shitty job cause Hillary won the popular vote.
Fact: The Electoral College, aka Congressmen, (not the American people) put Trump in office.
Fact: The Electoral College could have easily prevented Trump from taking office.
the Left: See line 2
the Left: See line 2
the Left: See line 2, etc., etc., etc.

Lmaooooo
you don't think the Russians know how our electoral college system works? lmao... you know Russians are smarter than us right? they got their candidate to win despite him losing the popular vote... sounds like the Russians did a pretty damn good job, not a "shitty job" like you say...
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Jul 21 2018 09:21am
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Exactly what I am accusing the LEFT of. In fact, it's so screamingly obvious that I'm surprised that everyone hasn't picked up on it by now.

ie... Russia has been trying to influence the US with propaganda since the mid 1900's and maybe even before that. No one doubts this at all. The ludicrous part of the LEFT's ravings is that in 2016, all of a sudden it is Trump's fault.
The same Trump that Russia refused when he wanted to build a Trump tower in Moscow.

Fact: Hillary won the popular vote.
the Left: Trump and Russia are in cahoots to sway the people in Trump's favor.
Fact: If this was true, then the Russians did a pretty shitty job cause Hillary won the popular vote.
Fact: The Electoral College, aka Congressmen, (not the American people) put Trump in office.
Fact: The Electoral College could have easily prevented Trump from taking office.
the Left: See line 2
the Left: See line 2
the Left: See line 2, etc., etc., etc.


I really don't care about your feelings which you use to make up alternative facts

and I realize that the real mental malfunction you're having is that Trump won Hillary lost blah blah

This is an investigation with evidence, facts, and indictments that you are ignoring to once again blindly follow a man

Where this goes is where this goes and how high it gets is how high it gets, that's what an investigation is, finding the truth

denying the truth or just making things up like you enjoy doing will not change the facts of the case when all is said and done

Save your excuses and lies and blind following for when the investigation concludes
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Jul 21 2018 09:22am
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Lmaooooo
you don't think the Russians know how our electoral college system works? lmao... you know Russians are smarter than us right? they got their candidate to win despite him losing the popular vote... sounds like the Russians did a pretty damn good job, not a "shitty job" like you say...




EWell I had decided to stop responding to your inanities, but one last time. You're saying that Russia influenced our Congress?!? The same Congress that is mad at Trump right now, because he didn't publicly humiliate Putin at the summit?m
Is that the Congress you're talking about? The same Congress that literally hates Russia with a passion bordering on psychosis? That Congress?

Ok now I'm done. I think I hear the Sports forums calling you. :/



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This is an investigation with evidence, facts, and indictments that you are ignoring to once again blindly follow a man


An investigation by politicians that never lie or cheat. The left accuses Trump of both but the left never partakes.
An investigation involving the FBI and DOJ, that have in the last 10-12 years or so, been caught repeatedly in falsehoods, cheating, ignoring rights and laws.

Is that the investigation you're talking about?

Oh that's right only the politicians on the right, lie cheat and steal. :/

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EWell I had decided to stop responding to your inanities, but one last time. You're saying that Russia influenced our Congress?!? The same Congress that is mad at Trump right now, because he didn't publicly humiliate Putin at the summit?m
Is that the Congress you're talking about? The same Congress that literally hates Russia with a passion bordering on psychosis? That Congress?


lmaooooo
you don't know how elections work or just stupid? U.S. citizens vote in their state, goes to a state wide tally, winner of that tally gets the electoral votes i.e. his or her party's electors vote in the electoral college... Russia obviously wanted voters to vote republican hence the (mostly) pro-Trump/pro-G.O.P. propoganda... is that too hard for you to understand when Putin himself a few days ago said "Yes, I did" want Trump (WHO IS A REPUBLICAN) to win the U.S. Presidential election?

seriously is any of that too hard to understand for you? if it is, maybe you should stop posting here...
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EWell I had decided to stop responding to your inanities, but one last time. You're saying that Russia influenced our Congress?!? The same Congress that is mad at Trump right now, because he didn't publicly humiliate Putin at the summit?m
Is that the Congress you're talking about? The same Congress that literally hates Russia with a passion bordering on psychosis? That Congress?

Ok now I'm done. I think I hear the Sports forums calling you. :/



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An investigation by politicians that never lie or cheat. The left accuses Trump of both but the left never partakes.
An investigation involving the FBI and DOJ, that have in the last 10-12 years or so, been caught repeatedly in falsehoods, cheating, ignoring rights and laws.

Is that the investigation you're talking about?

Oh that's right only the politicians on the right, lie cheat and steal. :/


Competent investigators many of which associated with the right

I accept their findings including if trump is completely cleared in the end
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