Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 14 2017 11:33am)
No, there a few posters on here who have pretty solid foreign policy/geopolitical understanding such as Goom, Zarkadon and especially Caedus but he doesn't really post on here anymore. We've done more damage to Europe & other countries around the globe with our interventions than Russia could ever do in recent history. Us collapsing Libya is the reason hundreds of thousands are flooding into Europe from Africa, us meddling in Iraq is the reason a power vacuum was created that eventually spawned ISIS.
No their interests don't align with ours but that does not make them bad just because they don't align with ours. That is the idiotic western-centric thought process which basically says hey whats good for us is more important than whats good for you.
And lol..."B-bu-but you were going to vote for drumpf anyways, so the truth shouldn't matter regardless1!!!!11" Um actually i voted libertarian, and if you recall i was the person who created the initial thread in support/endorsement of Kasich. One of the reasons i was so anti-Hillary is precisely due to her corruption and cronyism. Truth matters Icemage, instead of you caring for democracy and being critical of domestic threats to our democracy, you've joined the REEEE crowd which is a colossal smoke screen that diverted all of the attention from what the scumbags at the DNC did.
The Middle East/North Africa were unstable long before we invaded Iraq or intervened in Libya... and it'll continue to be unstable. Everybody knows Iraq was a major foreign policy mistake. The U.S. didn't orchestrate the Arab Spring... we didn't ask the Libyan or Syrian people to rise up against their government, but they did. So after a country breaks out in civil war, and a limited intervention can help the opposition and save thousands of lives, it's not hard to see why Obama chose to do what he did. Obama admitted that the inaction after Qaddafi fell was a foreign policy mistake, not the initial intervention.
I actually agree with you, our part in further destabilizing the Middle East probably has negatively effected Europe more than any Russian actions, but why is that? Because the Russian Federation doesn't have anywhere near the amount of influence as the Soviet Union did. Thank God for traditional American foreign policy.
I'm curious, do you believe Russia having more influence in their region and the world would be a good thing? If so, why? Was the Soviet Union's influence on the world stage a net good?
The Democratic and Republican primaries have always been anti-democratic to some extent. Frankly, I'm glad the process is rigged to some degree, 2016 showed us how stupid the American voters are. They can't be trusted to make adult decisions.
Also, lol @ voting for Aleppo Johnson.
This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 14 2017 11:08am