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Jun 29 2016 04:08pm
lol, there's something about numpty that really does it for me.
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Quote (Scaly @ Jun 29 2016 04:05pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nTrs-HuuUc

Skip to 5:25 if you just want to hear David Tennant call Trump a ludicrous tangerine ballbag.


I don't want to hear that
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Jun 29 2016 04:17pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 29 Jun 2016 22:08)
lol, there's something about numpty that really does it for me.


One of my favourite playful insults.
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Quote (Sakuraba @ 29 Jun 2016 14:08)
I don't want to hear that


Well someone's missing out.
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Jun 29 2016 05:15pm
Quote (Scaly @ 29 Jun 2016 23:05)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nTrs-HuuUc
Skip to 5:25 if you just want to hear David Tennant call Trump a ludicrous tangerine ballbag.


i zaped to 5.25 and it was nice, on the other hand i think they are pushing it too long, pretty charming anyway.
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Jun 29 2016 07:04pm
Quote (majorblood @ Jun 29 2016 11:17am)
whats he misunderstanding this time?


His entire premise is flawed from the start, for two main reasons, in my opinion:

1. Adding a modifier to a word doesn't do anything to degrade the root word, as some type of linguistic effect inherent to English. That's just nonsensical.
2. Even if we accepted the above position as actually true, that of modifiers making a word a "perversion of itself", then it still means Ben's argument doesn't make sense. He criticizes social justice, because we're adding the modifier "social" to the word justice, but he's doing so in a way that says that "the left is concerned with group justice over individual justice". Isn't "individual" also a modifier of the word justice? Doesn't that mean that individual justice is also bad?

Aside from that, his understanding of what mainstream social justice movements are fighting for isn't accurate, because he's talking about a very extreme/fringe position when talking about white Americans needing to pay reparations to black people/people from Africa. That's not something widely supported or being fought for in leftist circles, aside from groups like the Uhuru Movement.
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His entire premise is flawed from the start, for two main reasons, in my opinion:

1. Adding a modifier to a word doesn't do anything to degrade the root word, as some type of linguistic effect inherent to English. That's just nonsensical.
2. Even if we accepted the above position as actually true, that of modifiers making a word a "perversion of itself", then it still means Ben's argument doesn't make sense. He criticizes social justice, because we're adding the modifier "social" to the word justice, but he's doing so in a way that says that "the left is concerned with group justice over individual justice". Isn't "individual" also a modifier of the word justice? Doesn't that mean that individual justice is also bad?

Aside from that, his understanding of what mainstream social justice movements are fighting for isn't accurate, because he's talking about a very extreme/fringe position when talking about white Americans needing to pay reparations to black people/people from Africa. That's not something widely supported or being fought for in leftist circles, aside from groups like the Uhuru Movement.


Yes that would make individual justice a perversion of "justice", I don't think a perversion is always a bad thing. I don't think this part should nullify the rest of his points in the video.

I'm glad you agree that white people should not have to pay reparations to black people. Whats your opinions on affirmative action? Have you written your social justice views somewhere specifically on this forum?
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Jun 29 2016 07:24pm
Quote (majorblood @ Jun 30 2016 01:17am)
Yes that would make individual justice a perversion of "justice", I don't think a perversion is always a bad thing. I don't think this part should nullify the rest of his points in the video.

I'm glad you agree that white people should not have to pay reparations to black people. Whats your opinions on affirmative action? Have you written your social justice views somewhere specifically on this forum?


On this forum? Not concisely. A person's social justice views are inherently widely spread out across a number of different issues, causes and beliefs. The best I would be able to offer from this forum, would be the sum of all of my posts related to social issues, which isn't too terribly helpful.

I really like affirmative action, especially after quotas were ruled unconstitutional. The recent Supreme Court decision on affirmative action in university applications was a great one, especially since Abigail Fisher had no leg to stand on and she was being used as a pawn by wealthy conservatives.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 29 2016 05:24pm)
On this forum? Not concisely. A person's social justice views are inherently widely spread out across a number of different issues, causes and beliefs. The best I would be able to offer from this forum, would be the sum of all of my posts related to social issues, which isn't too terribly helpful.

I really like affirmative action, especially after quotas were ruled unconstitutional. The recent Supreme Court decision on affirmative action in university applications was a great one, especially since Abigail Fisher had no leg to stand on and she was being used as a pawn by wealthy conservatives.


Affirmative action to benefit what group of people exactly? Do you see affirmative action as a good way to correct wrong doings of the past? If so, at what point should they end and should we use a merit-based system entirely?
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