Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 20 2016 03:55pm)

1) A bunch of SJWs get together and try to create a 'fat acceptance movement' to say everyone who shames fat people is evil and we should have plus sized models and treat fatness as perfectly normal
2) Average, sane people call this nuts and unhealthy and ridiculous
3) The bleeding hearts nutters get to attack the sane people and call them smug dicks who should check their privilege

Fat people shouldn't be hidden away and not participating in the public sphere, they should be exposed and shamed for their body until they change it. Letting them hide away in a corner and hold hands and post on BBW forums while downing tubs of icecream is unproductive. But going the opposite direction and trying to corrupt the ideals of human body image and sexuality? Its as insidious and destructive as it is hopelessly impotent, fortunately. This is the kind of issue where I'm thankful for a base biological impulse driving human psychology, because at least when the fatties try their demented shenanigans, it will be unsuccessful.

Fat people should job and eat better. I do it, most of the world does it. I'm going to call them out on their decadence

Quote (Gastly @ Mar 20 2016 03:46pm)

They're just about as valid.

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Mar 20 2016 01:57pm)

Yeah, see, if you realized that the 'ideals' you're stroking yourself to weren't actually inborn human traits, you might start understanding where you're going wrong.

Quote (Goomshill @ 20 Mar 2016 12:00)

its human nature to seek healthier mates and idolize the fit, indeed its mammal nature to play competitive games for the purpose of self improvement
Do you want to quibble over the healthiness of wide hips? Obesity is not healthy, and disgusts us by nature. This is not a learned cultural trait

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 20 2016 01:58pm)

...yet if your Daddy called you his " little piggy " every night at the dinner table you might not !

Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 20 2016 04:06pm)

You wanted to bring in the personal examples, so lets play ball.
My old man was overweight some years ago, and I jogged with him and ate healthier, cut out the chocolate for vegetables. Now he's fit like an ex-wrestler instead of a pot belly, and I lost a few pounds in all the running, jogging, snowshoeing and whatnot. Earlier this year he was diagnosed with two separate and unrelated cancers, and on chemotherapy he's expected to make a full cure as a model patient. Would that be the case if he had diabetes and a bum ticker instead of a six pack? That he changed his lifestyle earlier was fortuitous and is saving his life. And it was solely a product of mental conviction. He put in the hard work, biked home from his office and I visited to kayak right next to him.

Should I have told him ten years ago that being fat is just an alternative and legitimate lifestyle and trying to fight it with force of will would be like trying to cure the runs with will power?