d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > What Muslims Believe
Prev167891012Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 63,058
Joined: Jul 15 2005
Gold: 152.00
Nov 21 2015 08:31pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 21 2015 10:14pm)
Your dislike of muslims is well known as is your belief that the west did not provoke the radicals

This thread is like a ninichnnails thread about black people

Would be nice to have discussions on legitimate issues with islam that needs to be addressed instead of a subtle call to eradicate the muslims


I'm just glad I have friends like you to tell me what I believe
Member
Posts: 62,215
Joined: Jun 3 2007
Gold: 9,039.20
Nov 21 2015 08:46pm
duffman316 always takes muslim threads personally, wouldn't be bothered with it.
Member
Posts: 65,046
Joined: Jul 7 2008
Gold: Locked
Nov 21 2015 08:48pm
The only numbers that really surprised me were the American Muslim numbers, so I did a little digging...Wenzel Strategy has been re-grouped into a group called "Clout Political", and all 3 of the administrative heads are pretty far right. Not saying that invalidates the results, just saying it casts doubt upon the validity of that particular study.
Member
Posts: 1,717
Joined: May 29 2015
Gold: 10.00
Nov 21 2015 08:48pm
Thanks for sharing. Good thread
Member
Posts: 78,723
Joined: Nov 30 2008
Gold: 493.00
Nov 21 2015 09:43pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Nov 21 2015 09:48pm)
The only numbers that really surprised me were the American Muslim numbers, so I did a little digging...Wenzel Strategy has been re-grouped into a group called "Clout Political", and all 3 of the administrative heads are pretty far right. Not saying that invalidates the results, just saying it casts doubt upon the validity of that particular study.


One day we shall debate the merits of a study without dismissing it outright for originating from extremely biased sources

But that day is not today
Member
Posts: 63,058
Joined: Jul 15 2005
Gold: 152.00
Nov 22 2015 02:32am
Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 21 2015 11:43pm)
One day we shall debate the merits of a study without dismissing it outright for originating from extremely biased sources

But that day is not today


You're free to dismiss them if you want, but there are more than a few from a credible source in the OP if you want to discuss those instead.
Member
Posts: 65,046
Joined: Jul 7 2008
Gold: Locked
Nov 22 2015 02:38am
Quote (Voyaging @ Nov 22 2015 01:32am)
You're free to dismiss them if you want, but there are more than a few from a credible source in the OP if you want to discuss those instead.


Well the only one that seemed like it was inaccurate to me was the U.S. figures (as I said). The rest are very believable to me and could certainly be the subject of many debates...but I think those would be more about the effectiveness of U.S. diplomacy than the beliefs of Muslims.
Member
Posts: 78,723
Joined: Nov 30 2008
Gold: 493.00
Nov 22 2015 02:49am
Quote (Voyaging @ Nov 22 2015 03:32am)
You're free to dismiss them if you want, but there are more than a few from a credible source in the OP if you want to discuss those instead.


Lets start with world public opinion

You can support american foreign policy or you can cry that people don't like americans but you can't do both nor complain about one while pretending america hasn't done anything to earn the ire of muslims

This post was edited by duffman316 on Nov 22 2015 03:05am
Member
Posts: 10,566
Joined: May 31 2013
Gold: 0.76
Nov 22 2015 04:55am
Quote (Voyaging @ 22 Nov 2015 03:32)
You're free to dismiss them if you want, but there are more than a few from a credible source in the OP if you want to discuss those instead.



The thing is when somebody who appreciates intelligent discussion like you, and I consider you in that group of Pard. But when you make a post that contains a mismash of sources, which some could be easily discounted as heavily biased. It makes it hard to accept any of the post as credible.

There are two sides those that are for accepting refugees, and those against it.

both sides have made their minds up. If you want to change someone's mind, the proof/info. you exhibit needs to be good, if it becomes tainted, the people who you are hoping to sway the opinion of are going to discount it instantly. And the ones who agree will just keep nodding as they read along.
Member
Posts: 33,479
Joined: Feb 7 2009
Gold: 1,341.48
Warn: 10%
Nov 25 2015 10:29am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Nov 20 2015 10:29am)
...do you mean cruelty as in honor killings of women , beating them with sticks in public because an ankle was exposed , stoning people to death for adultery , chopping off a hand for stealing a loaf of bread ...those kind of cruelties ? The cruelties imposed by just about every Muslim theocracy the world over by the non-violent , non-militant factions of Islam ?


The Christians did it first
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev167891012Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll