I don't remember much about my childhood, but I remember that day exactly. School didn't start till 900, first attack was shortly before 900. People were arriving at school when all of a sudden they announced school was cancelled. Teachers wouldn't say why. I only have such vivid memories of a few days.

What? what the tin foil hattery heck are you even saying at this point? It's not just specific theory on who the terrorists were. There was a through bi-partisan congressional investigation into who these terrorists were. There is no speculation or theory crafting.

The thing that you conspiracy nuts and truthers have to ask yourselves is; "to what end?" War? don't you think that there would be an easier way to galvanize our nation into action? Shoot down a helicopter overseas and kill a few Marines. That would have been enough to set our war machine into action. Create a coups in Iran or Iraq.etc... we always jump into those.

For all of his faults GWB. wasn't a traitor. he is a patriot who loves America, and gave eight years of his life up to lead her. I don't think he would be capable of signing off on a plan as terrible as you are suggesting. There is a difference between having a difference of political opinion and accusing the other side of that kind of domestic terrorism. The Republicans care just as much as the Democrats do about America, we each just have different opinions of how we'd like to get stuff done. But neither side is capable of slaughtering over two thousand of it's own people there are too many true heroes on both sides that would stop a plan like that. This is real life not a Clancy novel.

Aside from the conspiracy theories which equate basically to our national defense having been insufficient at the time because, my God who could attack America, I oppose the nationalistic pride exhibited by the OP. A tragedy and war crime is just that whether it occurs on US or foreign soil. I know that colors me as a globalist and an outsider, but my point being that I couldn't give two fucks about world trade.

Did you know that once upon a time it was illegal to manufacture fine products outside of England? At the height of the British empire, it's true. We have similar trade negotiations happening all over the world, backed by lawyers and judges. Not that I'm much a fan of them either.

Why wouldn't you give two fucks? or does that just make you sound edgy and "global"? the WTC if nothing else did set in motion the killing of over 300,000 Iraqi citizens so I wouldn't say ho hum unless you truly don't value human life? the terrorist attack on 9/11 and our subsequent "war on terror" has been the longest bloody warlike time in history with yearly deficits in the 3-4 trillion family, the United States casualty numbers and worse our numbers of wounded and amputee veterans is staggering. We've thrust ourselves into fighting a war against an army that grows fighters faster than we've been able to kill. Our domestic economy is shot to hell, our government has been reduced to bickering over moralistic laws which have no place in the national spotlight. What was a strong proud nation has become a laughing stock of the first world community. We have a reality television star with no political experience as the front runner in the presidential primaries. I give two fucks that those terrorists ripped a fucking wide gash through America and we are still hemorrhaging from the wound.

It is wrong to take pride in war, and that includes a war on terror.

Just calling it as I see it. No bullshit here... just fucking bored of hearing about this shit. Was 14 years ago - why y'all gotta make such a big deal over it? Don't hear us raving about the bus bombings every year... It's only Americans who have to try and appropriate other people's tragedies into their own stories. You guys just love the drama and attention. For the majority of people on this forum 9/11 was fuck all to do with them and yet they whine about it like it was something that actually affected them when the only way it actually did affect them is by them latching onto it and absorbing it into their idiotic, nationalist identities.

This post was edited by Scaly on Sep 11 2015 05:18am

because comparing a bus bombing with a fraction of the casualties of 9-11 is a fair comparison...

sharing stories of where we were and how we found out classifies as raving? its not like the topic came up on a random tuesday, its actually topical.

Seems you're looking for a reason to be upset.

Y few weeks before he took it?
Even if the mossad was aware of it, and even if the central US gov decided to let it go (for political & economical strategic reasons, it was clearly a gigantic opportunity to start a war and to increase US influence that was decrepifying over the world...) theres still a doubt.

On my side i had the words from someone working at french embassy and told us americans were "aware" of it.

Clase closed for me, never forget that, im agree.

Have fun with it.