Oh so you are comparing two completely fucking ridiculously different cases?
Sorry i thought this was a serious discussion.
If you accidently left some bleach out on the bench and the woman drank it killing the baby you would also not be guilty..

This post was edited by Lifebane99 on May 18 2013 05:44pm

he did this all wrong

If you find a way to carry the baby I'm sure nobody would object to it.



Yeah there is truth to this. I think abortion is horribly immoral and would never consider one in my personal life...something my significant other agrees with.

The pro-choice movement is a hard movement to defend sometimes and my support for it isn't unconditional.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 18 2013 06:13pm

That doesn't address the double standard.
If men should have to take responsibility for the consequences of their actions why shouldn't women?

Total child support payments often represent more than a year of forced labor(sometimes over 2 years worth), arguably worse than carrying a child to term.
Why does the government have the right to force men to work for a year or more to pay for a child because the woman wants to keep it, yet it's wrong for the government to force women to carry a child for 9 months because the man wants to keep it?

This post was edited by taekvideo on May 18 2013 09:12pm

Women have to take responsibility for their problems, which is either having the child or having an abortion, which itself is a terrible experience, leaving the mother scared physically and emotionally.

Since the woman has to carry it around in her body it is up to her whether to keep it. If the male carried it then it would be up to him. People have sovereignty over their bodies, even if they lack a penis.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 18 2013 09:20pm

Yet the male does not get a choice in paying child support (you know with money he used his body to earn).

Because if you have kids you have to pay for them ding dong

Not sure if you know this, but kids cost money.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 18 2013 09:24pm

You just said it was HER choice.

Kids require money, yes. They also require a prenatal environment to grow in.
Taking away a man's right over his body to provide the former is no different than taking away a woman's right over her body to provide the latter.

....... that was the whole point of that..... that those two cases are not linked, if you read my original post that is EXACTLY what I said... is that you cannot compare a person in a vegetative state to a fetus..... the only way to truly compare it makes the situations so ridiculous it's pointless... maybe read and understand a post before you try and make a comment like that?



it was BOTH their choices.... you chose to have sex, you BOTH have to accept the consequences of that....

however the male does NOT have the choice to tell the girl what she can do with her body and what's inside of it.... if she keeps it however it is then THEIR child... the husband is not required to pay for medical bills, because until birth it is the womans fetus, at birth it becomes BOTH of theirs child.