It becomes a belief when there's no opposition to it. I had a friend I used to work with a few years ago tell me about how we didn't have an income tax in Canada before ww1, and that we shouldn't even have one now. I laughed at him and made every argument in the book to keep it, I believed it was the only way.

I think it's an excellent idea. Superlative even. Replace it with a national sales tax. Consume more, pay more taxes. Save more, pay less. Double plus good.

Again, you talk about how you were personally convinced of something by a guy that you used to work with, and think that the answer is that everyone is the same as you, just waiting to be converted if only they could hear the same truths that you heard.

But you're extrapolating your experiences far too much. Plenty of people have heard arguments against income tax and thinks that the arguments are stupid. And there are plenty of outlets to try to get people's attention if you just think they haven't heard it - go use some of those to reach people. But don't be surprised when it turns out the answer is that no one really gives that much of a fuck.



Yes, and you have a Ron Paul sig, so you're pretty much making my point.

I don't happen to think that it's a terrible idea either. I'd like a good ol' fashioned VAT with maybe a bit more weight on the luxury tax side of the fence, personally. But it's not something that people give a shit about right now, and that's why it's not reflected in the candidates that we have. Coz dur.

This post was edited by AiNedeSpelCzech on Sep 10 2012 10:45pm

You will end up in the same boat as aus and nz, they will add a sales tax and leave the income tax.

The blueprints for the WTC still exist from the engineers. The engineers that design high-rises design for extreme conditions.
I went to school for Civil Engineering. My instructors had a seminar just to tell people that basically if you believe the buildings fell because of a plane, you are not educated about the subject enough.
At this point anyone who says a plane can bring down such a structure is just being political, stubborn, or plain ignorant.

A plane by itself definitely can't bring down a building like the twin towers.

A plane exploding and rocking the shit out of the building and then burning hot enough to ignite jet fuel and continuing to burn for several hours in that damaged structure, on the other hand? Yeah, that can.

Proof: They did.

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Obviously Engineers aren't as stupid as you. They think.

Is this the part where you link the site with that tiny minority of engineers that all believe this stupid shit about an inside job? Because seriously, this shit is boring by now.

We get it. You're gullible. Have fun with that.

No this is the part where you are gullible and I say, "so go ahead and stay gullible."

Absolutely. I definitely didn't read the entirety of the 9/11 report and verify a lot of the information myself and extensively research the myriad and terribly contradictory theories held by truthers. I just let myself get suckered in because I don't want to think about it. Herpy derpy doo.

I mean, Jesus Christ. How can you still believe this shit after so long? Is it because the alternative is admitting that a small handful of Muslims are pissed off enough at the United States to commit atrocities?