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Nov 16 2010 02:29am
Quote (nate86 @ Nov 16 2010 03:06am)
Your 2nd point is correct (only God is good), but your first point is not.
Evolution does not have even close to the same amount of proof as does gravity. Gravity has been tried and tested over and over in real life situations. Evolution has not.

Speciation has absolutely been witnessed:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3790531.stm
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/11/speciation-in-action/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4708459.stm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.htm

And there are absolutely vestigial portions of DNA inside of many different animals (including humans, considering the fact that there are genetic mutations that lead to phenotypically normal humans). Or maybe you want some videographic evidence of evolution?

Warning for the squeamish: Video contains giraffe dissection.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cH2bkZfHw4
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Nov 21 2010 12:20am
guys the point of religion is not that it is real.
it is very clearly not.


the point is to try and understand the morals that can be drawn on from the stories there.


the bible is just the best selling book of all time.

it's like how we all read To Kill A Mockingbird in high school...

except J-dog and the D-crew were the firsts to suggest, hey, let's be nice to people.




unfortunately in today's society, many of those stories are roughly 2,000 years out of context.

and thus we have religious wars, and entire religious communities hating other races or sexualities.



but it started as a good thing!

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Nov 21 2010 02:07am
The coming events will affect everyone worldwide. He will send them out by the millions, all over the Earth, as spoken of by Enoch.

Its serious.

This post was edited by Torm1 on Nov 21 2010 02:07am
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Quote (bentherdonethat @ Nov 16 2010 02:52am)
Speciation is a pretty well-documented occurrence in nature. Evolution has as much "proof" as gravity. Do we know EXACTLY how it works in all instances? No. Does the scientific community accept that our understanding of it now is pretty close to what is actually happening in the universe? Yes.


Couldn't the same be said about the good that people do in the name of religion? If not for religion, then people who would do "evil" would find another justification for it, and people who would do "good" in the name of religion would just find another justification without it.


if you dont know ALL of it, then you know NOTHING.

also, the majority isn't always right, you cannot simply say just because the scientific community accepts it that its' absolutely correct, they used to think the earth was flat
also, the world we live in today agrees that abortion is ok, just because the majority of the world says it's ok, it's not, so you can't take what the latest papers have to say as absolute truth
that's why science books are always updated, every year a new edition is printed out
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Quote (Conviction @ Nov 21 2010 11:38am)
if you dont know ALL of it, then you know NOTHING.

We don't have a complete understanding of gravity, and yet we can make very accurate predictions of pretty much everything on the macro scale. Would you say we know nothing about gravity?

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also, the majority isn't always right, you cannot simply say just because the scientific community accepts it that its' absolutely correct, they used to think the earth was flat

That's factually untrue and it's a shame that they teach it in schools. Ever see a picture of Atlas holding up a sheet of paper? I don't think so. He was holding up a very round Earth.

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also, the world we live in today agrees that abortion is ok, just because the majority of the world says it's ok, it's not, so you can't take what the latest papers have to say as absolute truth
that's why science books are always updated, every year a new edition is printed out

Abortion is a moral issue which doesn't have an absolute truth to it. New science books are printed every year primarily so they can sell more books (yay capitalism!). Have you ever seen two editions of a textbook side by side? Usually the questions are changed around slightly, but little information is added. Sometimes different examples are offered in the text as well, and a clearer explanation will be given as well.
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