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Dec 1 2009 04:57pm
Quote (HERETICtheory @ Dec 1 2009 10:30pm)
Your personal attacks aren't convincing, unless of course you're trying to convince of what kind of a person you are, then yes, I see now what kind of a person you are.  I posted it because I wanted to share an idea.  That was an act that fulfilled something that I desired. 

Again, if you want to back your claims of legitimacy with science, that's fine with me.  Go right ahead.  In that context it doesn't make sense.  However, I do not back claims of legitimacy through science because I do not believe it is the ultimate art of understanding.  It has it's uses, but mostly its only useful within the confines of the system we have erected.  So if you'd like to hold this theory up to your ungodly light of all knowing, absolute science, then go right ahead.  I think you've already realized that when you do this, the theory IS in fact, a pile of nonsense. 

You've missed my point by a long shot and yet you still feel the need to criticize it.  Maybe you just don't understand.  If that's the case, that's fine, I'm completely okay with that.  There was a time that I did not think the way I do today.  Maybe one day you'll get it, maybe you won't.  I don't care, that is for you to decide what level of experience you want to be open to in this life.  If you feel so insecure that you have to challenge ideas that aren't even being pushed on you, I feel very sad for you.  You are under the impression that I am arguing with you.  Sadly, I am not.  I am just defending my posts.  I'm sure you're a wonderful person once you open up and show your greatness but right now all you're doing is attempting to ruin my day.  I have no sympathy for that and you will be judged according to your actions. 

I'm not here to hurt any one of you, yet you're all extremely threatened by my presence.  It's almost an honor.



You're here and you portray a certain ideology. We then find out your ideology is based on nothing but vague assumptions. I know that a lot of people here hang by their reason and try to use it to discover bits of the world.

Also, by definition if a theory isn't falsifiable (like yours) it is hopeless to believe in it, since nothing can be done to disprove it.

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You've missed my point by a long shot and yet you still feel the need to criticize it. 


Summarize your long-shot point within a few words.

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Dec 1 2009 06:17pm
Quote (HERETICtheory @ Dec 1 2009 05:30pm)
You're all extremely pleased by my presence.  It's almost an honor.


fixed

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Really, I haven't received anything...

Well there are three major methods used, they all give similar results. The simplest and least controversial method is to measure the distance (in light years) to the surface of last scattering. The WMAP satellite made these measurements earlier this decade. It measured the distance at about 13.5 billion light years.


The algorithm and the program is available online for free.
Timewave Zero graphing algorithm is available online:
http://timewave2012.com/tools/calculator/

The Big Bang date has changed often over the years, and each time it gets closer and closer to what the Mayans and the other Mesoamericans have been telling us. Of course, it is all just coincidence at this point. :)

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You're here and you portray a certain ideology. We then find out your ideology is based on nothing but vague assumptions. I know that a lot of people here hang by their reason and try to use it to discover bits of the world.

Also, by definition if a theory isn't falsifiable (like yours) it is hopeless to believe in it, since nothing can be done to disprove it.


The same could be said about religion yet you hide your anger for them out of respect or your fear of a warning on this site, yet you flagrantly abuse this privilege when it comes to "pseudo-science" and that just speaks volumes about the other people assaulting this thread with the same vigor. This is without a doubt a very controversial subject, but it doesn't mean for a second that we have to be assholes.

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The Big Bang date has changed often over the years, and each time it gets closer and closer to what the Mayans and the other Mesoamericans have been telling us. Of course, it is all just coincidence at this point. :)

That statement is so far from reality it is not even accurate it call it wrong. You live in a fantasy world my friend.
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That statement is so far from reality it is not even accurate it call it wrong. You live in a fantasy world my friend.


How so? If I am wrong about this, the you could at least have the courtesy to explain to me my faults.
Thanks.

edit: To be clear, Wikipedia is not my source for much if anything at all.

16.4 Billion years ago.



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Quote (HERETICtheory @ Dec 1 2009 03:09pm)
Can I tell you the algorithm.  No... pay attention here buddy.  I'm trying to slow my roll so you can keep up but you're just falling behind left and right.  An algorithm is a mathematical equation.  Got that??  I don't know what the fuck the algorithm is seeing as it is highly complex and I am very uneducated in the realm of math.  I don't think most high school level math teachers would understand the algorithm either.  It is an equation for fractal time, if you think you can handle that, go fucking look it up.  I believe it's part of the application I have and that's why I offered to send it to people.  All of this has been covered in previous posts, your posting is only magnifying the fact that you don't know what you're talking about and the "WHAT THE FUCK"s and such are only furthering that idea. 

I'm reading your post section by section as I reply and I find it quite hilarious to have come to this part right now after typing the above: 

"and I'll claim I have the capacity to comprehend English sentences, because you sure as hell can't. How's that?"

First off, what the fuck does that even mean?  I have already claimed that I have a capacity for abstract thought.  But clearly, as stated above, you do not comprehend English sentences very well. 

Now I've come to the part where you say ".. but that's not really what we're discussing here." and all I have in response is a shaking of my head in disappointment and a reiteration of "Examining the faults of science is a whole other topic entirely"  It's in bold, can you get it now??  I've clearly acknowledged that it's not what we're discussing now.

"That's part of the process of debate and scientific scrutiny or the peer review."

I could give a fuck less about YOUR peer review.  You're clearly incompetent.  Also, I could give two fucks less about anybody's "review."  I didn't post it for review, I posted it so you can be aware that it exists and in turn take some time to consider it on whatever level it impacts you on.  You all seem to think I'm posting for you.  No, I'm posting for ME.  I'm not here to save your soul and even if I was, you wouldn't let me.

"It claims to be science."

No, it never claimed to be science.  It claimed to be a theory.  In fact, I would argue that this is everything science has ignored.

"Cite concrete examples and make the connections clear, otherwise just fuck off."

I have laid off the personal attacks with you throughout this whole thread but it is getting tiresome.  If this is your attitude towards life, you must live an extremely boring and hollow lifestyle and your social interactions must be sub-par if not non-existent.  I'm not going to "fuck off" anytime soon and when I do, it certainly will NOT be because you told me to. 

You make me laugh.


You're telling someone who actually deals with algorithms what an algorithm actually is? An algorithm isn't a math equation for fuck's sake. Do some reading outside your nonsense spiritual infested new age trash before regurgitating what these mystics decide on letting you in on. Start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithm

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Also, I could give two fucks less about anybody's "review."  I didn't post it for review, I posted it so you can be aware that it exists and in turn take some time to consider it on whatever level it impacts you on.

You posted it so it could be read. Well, we read it and we think it's nonsense.

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No, it never claimed to be science.  It claimed to be a theory.

Theories and science are related? Whoa, this must be fucking news to you.

This post was edited by infinitesimal on Dec 1 2009 06:40pm
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I need to take a chill pill.


Agreed :)
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ITT: computer illiteracy

WHOA, I can get a program AND a web application to "generate" a similar looking graph! The explanation behind that must be legitimate and it must involve complex mathematics!

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The algorithm and the program is available online for free.
Timewave Zero graphing algorithm is available online:
http://timewave2012.com/tools/calculator/


That looks to just be a program that vomits the output onto a graph, rather than showing the actual algorithm itself.

I can't find it anywhere, tbh. I'd kinda like to just to try to get this conversation somewhere productive, but I'm having little in the way of luck. :(
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ITT: computer illiteracy

WHOA, I can get a program AND a web application to "generate" a similar looking graph! The explanation behind that must be legitimate and it must involve complex mathematics!


I guess you will never know for sure, with that attitude.
:)

You deal with algorithms, so why don't you delve a little deeper and find out what all the fuss is about? Maybe you can shed some light on the subject instead of dousing us all in darkness.
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