Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 2 2025 12:44pm)

Matthew A Livelsberger, 37 years old white male, wife and daughter born this past summer. Active military service, special forces intelligence sergeant, defense analysis and strategic studies degree, remote and autonomous systems manager (drones), green beret. 19 years military service, 18 in special forces.
Both Livelsberger and Hajji Bin Jafar served at Fort Bragg, and both were deployed to afghanistan circa 2009-2010. Both committed terrorist attacks on the same day, both trying to do car bombings, both with rented electric vehicles from the turo app.
The investigators in new orleans say they believe shamshir dindun jabbar had assistance or accomplices in his attack and are conducting search warrants in other states
Jabbar was clearly motivated by ISIS: A brokeass deadbeat unemployed divorcee muslim guy who had recently toured egypt and lived in an enclave and his family say he got indoctrinated online. He brought an ISIS flag with him. That would be a clear motive, open and shut case
Livelsberger has no apparent motive, no obvious reason he would turn terrorist for any cause let alone ISIS. Even though the police have formally identified him as a suspect and raided his home, I can't help but wonder if his identity got stolen / framed and he was murdered, because that seems more likely than him being an ISIS sleeper agent who decided to... get married and raise a kid?

There are some coherent hypotheses bout what happened here. Livelsberger's wife was very vocally liberal, perhaps he was touched by the TDS too and was doing an anti-Trump suicide bombing, I mean we already had at least one retard burn himself to death last year. And it was just a string of coincidences it landed so closely aligned with the other guy. Fort Bragg is basically a city, most grunts deployed to afghanistan, turo is the #1 car rental app (not service) and makes sense for those avoiding detection by in-person registration. A cybertruck makes sense if it was some kind of lashing out at elon/trump.

But police seem reasonably confident Livelsberger was the person killed in the suicide blast, so unless this was some utterly insane contrived plot where he was being held hostage by a phone operator threatening to blow up the bomb and ordering him to drive- I can't figure it as anything else than a suicide attack. One very poorly implemented, which actually clashes with the guy having so much military expertise. Even I as a layman with next to zero explosives know-how can tell you that gas tanks, fireworks and fuel don't pack the explosive power to destroy anything made of steel outside the container you put them in. Not like 6500 lbs of ammonium nitrate that mcveigh used. Maybe if he actually was the self-immolating type it makes sense, but a smaller vehicle might have seriously injured some bystanders or people behind the windows.

Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 2 2025 03:44am)

Matthew A Livelsberger, 37 years old white male, wife and daughter born this past summer. Active military service, special forces intelligence sergeant, defense analysis and strategic studies degree, remote and autonomous systems manager (drones), green beret. 19 years military service, 18 in special forces.
Both Livelsberger and Hajji Bin Jafar served at Fort Bragg, and both were deployed to afghanistan circa 2009-2010. Both committed terrorist attacks on the same day, both trying to do car bombings, both with rented electric vehicles from the turo app.
The investigators in new orleans say they believe shamshir dindun jabbar had assistance or accomplices in his attack and are conducting search warrants in other states
Jabbar was clearly motivated by ISIS: A brokeass deadbeat unemployed divorcee muslim guy who had recently toured egypt and lived in an enclave and his family say he got indoctrinated online. He brought an ISIS flag with him. That would be a clear motive, open and shut case
Livelsberger has no apparent motive, no obvious reason he would turn terrorist for any cause let alone ISIS. Even though the police have formally identified him as a suspect and raided his home, I can't help but wonder if his identity got stolen / framed and he was murdered, because that seems more likely than him being an ISIS sleeper agent who decided to... get married and raise a kid?

There are some coherent hypotheses bout what happened here. Livelsberger's wife was very vocally liberal, perhaps he was touched by the TDS too and was doing an anti-Trump suicide bombing, I mean we already had at least one retard burn himself to death last year. And it was just a string of coincidences it landed so closely aligned with the other guy. Fort Bragg is basically a city, most grunts deployed to afghanistan, turo is the #1 car rental app (not service) and makes sense for those avoiding detection by in-person registration. A cybertruck makes sense if it was some kind of lashing out at elon/trump.

But police seem reasonably confident Livelsberger was the person killed in the suicide blast, so unless this was some utterly insane contrived plot where he was being held hostage by a phone operator threatening to blow up the bomb and ordering him to drive- I can't figure it as anything else than a suicide attack. One very poorly implemented, which actually clashes with the guy having so much military expertise. Even I as a layman with next to zero explosives know-how can tell you that gas tanks, fireworks and fuel don't pack the explosive power to destroy anything made of steel outside the container you put them in. Not like 6500 lbs of ammonium nitrate that mcveigh used. Maybe if he actually was the self-immolating type it makes sense, but a smaller vehicle might have seriously injured some bystanders or people behind the windows.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 2 2025 07:45am)

He cant be terrorist because atheists dont have the power, its all about the power dynamics and as an arab atheists he's a minority squared.


also:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-victims-orleans-attack-210402942.html

Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 2 2025 06:44am)

Matthew A Livelsberger, 37 years old white male, wife and daughter born this past summer. Active military service, special forces intelligence sergeant, defense analysis and strategic studies degree, remote and autonomous systems manager (drones), green beret. 19 years military service, 18 in special forces.
Both Livelsberger and Hajji Bin Jafar served at Fort Bragg, and both were deployed to afghanistan circa 2009-2010. Both committed terrorist attacks on the same day, both trying to do car bombings, both with rented electric vehicles from the turo app.
The investigators in new orleans say they believe shamshir dindun jabbar had assistance or accomplices in his attack and are conducting search warrants in other states
Jabbar was clearly motivated by ISIS: A brokeass deadbeat unemployed divorcee muslim guy who had recently toured egypt and lived in an enclave and his family say he got indoctrinated online. He brought an ISIS flag with him. That would be a clear motive, open and shut case
Livelsberger has no apparent motive, no obvious reason he would turn terrorist for any cause let alone ISIS. Even though the police have formally identified him as a suspect and raided his home, I can't help but wonder if his identity got stolen / framed and he was murdered, because that seems more likely than him being an ISIS sleeper agent who decided to... get married and raise a kid?

There are some coherent hypotheses bout what happened here. Livelsberger's wife was very vocally liberal, perhaps he was touched by the TDS too and was doing an anti-Trump suicide bombing, I mean we already had at least one retard burn himself to death last year. And it was just a string of coincidences it landed so closely aligned with the other guy. Fort Bragg is basically a city, most grunts deployed to afghanistan, turo is the #1 car rental app (not service) and makes sense for those avoiding detection by in-person registration. A cybertruck makes sense if it was some kind of lashing out at elon/trump.

But police seem reasonably confident Livelsberger was the person killed in the suicide blast, so unless this was some utterly insane contrived plot where he was being held hostage by a phone operator threatening to blow up the bomb and ordering him to drive- I can't figure it as anything else than a suicide attack. One very poorly implemented, which actually clashes with the guy having so much military expertise. Even I as a layman with next to zero explosives know-how can tell you that gas tanks, fireworks and fuel don't pack the explosive power to destroy anything made of steel outside the container you put them in. Not like 6500 lbs of ammonium nitrate that mcveigh used. Maybe if he actually was the self-immolating type it makes sense, but a smaller vehicle might have seriously injured some bystanders or people behind the windows.