It's easy. He said he wouldn't do, his cabinet said he wouldn't do, apparently, no one was above the law. After the elections just a month before the inauguration of the new president, he did anyways. No more morale high ground for democrats anymore. All they do is to lie.

The best defense you can come up with is whataboutism. Do two wrongs make it right? Nope. There is nothing to defend. Have some respect towards yourself and stop being a lemming for the time being. I am not even talking about the wording of that pardon.

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People like yourself who are searching for a reason to not like Democrats will find plenty of material. Lol.

Voters do not care about this. If politics is about finding votes, there's no reason for Democrats to care. Voters do not care. So this conversation is nonsensical bullshit that will fade away.

I am not against democrats. I am against the current iteration of democrats. There is no need to defend every single piece of shit falling from piece of shit people no matter whether they're republicans or democrats. Instead of that, damage control and what could be done better next time, a new direction for the party would be more productive. If you defend a position even if it's clearly wrong, it tells more about you.
As for the event, nope, I think it'll haunt dems for at least a decade.

Hunter Biden laundered millions of dollars selling influence and connection to his father, the sitting Vice-President. He documented all of this in explicit detail. By precedent the administration itself helped set he should already be in jail for FARA violations. Scamming a few Trump supporters is chump change. Hunter Biden didn't "make mistakes" on his taxes, he ran afoul of every bank AML red line known to man and refused to pay taxes on millions of undeclared income while writing off drug and prostitution expense as business. Al Capone didn't get nailed for being a drug lord, he got sent to a slow Alcatraz fueled death for refusing to pay taxes. Your average criminal who gets picked up for a drug bust (he has priors!) gets the gun possession tagged on top 100% of the time.

I'm not outraged. I expected this to happen and it happened. The President has the virtually absolute power to pardon whoever the hell he wants. But that's my moral code, not Joe's. Joe Biden staked his on not pardoning his son. He said explicitly that it would violate rule of law, and that the Democrats were the "rule of law" party, and then almost immediately exposed it as a cheap electoral ploy with the voters as his fools. Unfortunately for him, you can only pull this sort of stunt so many times before people wake up and realize it's all bullshit.

Had he simply pardoned his son for the crimes he committed that were a clear (i agree) politically motivated attack on Joe himself (the gun crimes and tax evasion he was convicted of by taking a deal and pleading guilty) i'd agree.

because Biden reached back further and provided a blanket pardon for the era which covers his alleged Burisma activity it's not just so simple.

to be honest though if the logic is "the american people just showed they dont care so we dont care" i hope that trend continues. the democrats tho will be back to pretending they're the virtuous party in 2026 and we both know it, they'll bury Joe and continue down a failing phony moral virtuous direction and spend 4 more years only pointing out republican corruption. they'll find a reason to be against generals going to contractors after they retire, term limits will be bad, and stock buying will be a-okay. this blatant corruption is a blip on the radar, they'll just move it all again behind closed doors and learn nothing.

Voters absolutely care about Biden refusing Congressionally allotted and Presidentially approved monies to Ukraine unless the Prosecutor who was investigating his son was fired. Voters are also absolutely horrified that the US Taxpayer has been paying the salaries of the entire Ukrainian government for the last 2 years, along with all the military aid being sent for a war that doesn't concern us.

Your assumptions are silly, and you do not speak for the American voter. Clearly. You supported Kamala. You lost. Sit down, child.

Tribes and small city-states, mostly. And they never really work. Some survive, but only when they cast off Democracy. And Tribes is even doubtful. Only elders get a vote.

Your own family unit isn't even a democracy. Could you imagine how insane it is that you put in a lifetime's worth of work, then your kids "outvote" you and suddenly all your shit becomes theirs and you get to live on the street?

You've turned into such a nonsensical, silly shill it's not even funny.

Not tyranny of the minority, but rather safeguards which prevent a small majority from ruling by decree.