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Nov 17 2024 10:46am
if deportations dont start day 1 im going to be disappointed

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Nov 17 2024 11:21am
Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 17 2024 06:56am)
didn't read the rest of this but you really believe putting an antivaxxer in a position to lead a country on health issues is a good thing?


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Nov 17 2024 11:57pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ Nov 17 2024 10:43am)
Have you seen UKs data for covid vaccines, and that most covid related deaths in UK were actually in vaccinated people?

I'm not anti-vax, especially for those created to destroy disease and make it almost non-existent in society. But I never vaccinate myself for covid (beyond the first J&J that came out so I could do things during the pandemic. Thank god I didn't get blood clots) or any flu vaccines.

(I've also had covid twice, the first time I barely felt it but the second time I had the works. Even lost taste in my tongue for a bit).

I think there is evidence that the covid vaccines aren't effective and that the side-effects lower health enough to pose health-issues and potential life-threating disasters.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-36494-0

Quote from discussion portion of this article:


when i google for it i get this
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-evidence-link-uk-excess-deaths-covid-19-vaccines-2024-02-06/

last I looked at the data a few years ago, people in general had a 3% chance of dying from covid, and the risk of complications from vaccines were less likely by several orders of magnititude. If the risk of side effects were that bad chris you'd see a lot more people with complications given that most of the world is vaccinated https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html

imo ultimately what it comes down to is a combination of doing your own assesment but also understanding you're not a medical expert and looking at what doctors and rich people are doing, hell even trump got vaccinated
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Nov 18 2024 04:15am
Quote (SkySwallower @ Nov 17 2024 05:52am)
I can see most of those comming true, just have a different opinion on them. E.g. 1 is a clear signal to Russia that attacking neighboring countries is great, not sure that's what the takeaway should be, but it probably will be under Trump. I also expect RFKJ, Elon and Vivek to do absolutely terrible jobs, but that will be hard to measure directly I suppose.


Attack what neighboring countries?
Ukraine is the only one not in NATO now unless you're talking about the countries to the South which I frankly don't know a whole lot about or Mongolia or Kazakhstan.
Are you worried Russia is going to attack one of those? Wouldn't that piss off China? Is there even value in any of those countries to begin with?
Elon already DOGE'd Twitter and it's now better than ever so why don't you believe in one of the smartest most successful human beings of this generation?
Are you mad Twitter is now a place of free speech and not a left-wing echo chamber of censorship?
Even if you're mad about the direction Twitter has gone that doesn't change the fact that Elon cut waste by 80% and we've seen no downside in terms of function or performance.
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Nov 18 2024 04:25am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Nov 17 2024 07:08am)
I actually read Kennedy's book on the subject:

https://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-COVID-19-Lockdowns-Passports/dp/1645020886

He isn't an anti-vaxxer, but he definitely is a skeptic.

The overall message of the book is to strongly consider the vaccine if you are at risk or old.


Right, RFKJ was never an anti-vaxxer at all, he just questions big pharma and they don't like that.
RFKJ stands for transparency within healthcare and the food industries and to weed out all corruption of those trying to line their pockets at the expense of the American people's health.
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Nov 18 2024 12:03pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 17 2024 09:56am)
didn't read the rest of this but you really believe putting an antivaxxer in a position to lead a country on health issues is a good thing?


Vaccines are not the answer.
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Nov 18 2024 12:27pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 17 2024 09:16am)
What was the conclusion you yourself came to when looking at the stats regarding the vaccines vs side effects


tbh a lot of people labelled "anti vaxxers" dont question vaccines in total, but even simply question just the vaccine schedule.

as a father to young kids i can tell you it's pretty wild how many they get. a lot of them make sense, some dont. Take Hep B for example. a disease only spread through sex and needles. they give the vaccine to them within 24 hours of birth. why? well the stock answer is they could "step on a dirty needle", even though that's literally never happened ever.

but lobbys got it on the vaccine schedule and now it's standard practice, so some pharma company makes billions per year and you look like an idiot if you decline or even as if it can wait.

and that's the key issue, the hep b vaccine isn't dangerous. but its largely unnecessary for little kids. yet its given all the same. but ask about it and somehow you're the same as a tinfoil wearing moron who thinks literally all vaccines cause literally all autism and make kids trans.
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Nov 18 2024 12:50pm
"Elon already DOGE'd Twitter and it's now better than ever so why don't you believe in one of the smartest most successful human beings of this generation?"

Twitter is obviosly not publicly traded anymore but as far as I can tell every single source says that Twitter lost a lot of value since Elon took over? I mean it was a great play to buy it and use it to amplifiy Trumps message to then be part of the government for Elon itself, for Twitter it was a pretty terrible direction businesswise.

Edit: https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2024/09/30/elon-musks-x-is-now-worth-around-a-fifth-of-the-44-billion-he-paid-for-it-fidelity-says/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxbusiness.com/technology/x-now-worth-71-less-than-when-musk-bought-it-fidelity-estimates.amp

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Quote (SkySwallower @ Nov 18 2024 12:50pm)
"Elon already DOGE'd Twitter and it's now better than ever so why don't you believe in one of the smartest most successful human beings of this generation?"

Twitter is obviosly not publicky traded anymore but as far as I can tell every single source says that Twitter lost a lot of vaolue since Elon took over? I mean it was a great play to buy it and use it to amplifiy Trumps message to then be part of the government for Elon itself, for Twitter it was a pretty terrible direction businesswise.

Edit: https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2024/09/30/elon-musks-x-is-now-worth-around-a-fifth-of-the-44-billion-he-paid-for-it-fidelity-says/


this is a silly way to look at it. Elon has money in many different companies. twitter lost value, but elon didnt lose anything. he still paid the money he paid, and now gets revenue from ads and services. he has a really long term plan to expand the platform just like facebook did. remember when craigslist was a thing? now most transactions in that space take place on facebook marketplace.

and meanwhile his money in Tesla, an actual stock holding company, has exploded. in the time he "lost" 44 bn buying twitter he's gained like 50 bn plus on tesla alone. and his twitter rebuild is still by all accounts still in phase 1. people got the idea he'd fire people and add a few rules and that's it. those same people thought twitter would lose most of it's users, and there still there. ad buyers are flocking back. and plans are underway to open new revenue streams.
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