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#71
Oct 16 2024 08:07pm
Quote (Shadowoffury @ Oct 16 2024 07:03pm)
I think you lack the conviction and honestly to answer a simple question heh.

That's cognitive dissonance, you can't answer the question without sounding crazy(to yourself) or contradicting what you already believe. So instead of using that as justification for reflection, you avoid or deflect. It's fine, it's common. It's not the path to greater understanding tho


I think a woman should always have control over her body. are you happy now lil guy?
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Oct 16 2024 08:09pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 17 2024 11:03am)
your analogy not mine..


No a completely different one.
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#73
Oct 16 2024 08:11pm
I am Pro Death.

And I also support Trump, but I don’t agree with everything he says.

I’m not a sheep.

Females should have the option to legally terminate their unborn child.

It’s still their body. They are the gatekeepers of life.

But of course, if a baby is already outside of the female, then it shouldn’t be legal to terminate it. You get prison for that.

And of course, rapists want their legacy to live on.
I don’t think they deserve that.
What they deserve is prison.
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Oct 16 2024 08:12pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 16 2024 10:07pm)
I think a woman should always have control over her body. are you happy now lil guy?


I was happy before, but yeah, a little happier now.

What about a minute after it's born, is she still allowed to kill it or is it suddenly murder? It's just as alive, just as capable of thought and fear and pain as it was 5 minutes ago. But you maintain that at one moment you have absolutely no moral responsibility, and the next moment you are suddenly a child murdering psycho if you kill it? Seems illogical
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Oct 16 2024 08:15pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ Oct 17 2024 12:46pm)
It isn't that black and white; you are asking a moral question that some align akin to murder. I personally don't think its akin to murder, but to use upon request is a thing that shouldn't be allowed.

Perhaps a concession where a psychologist would meet with the potential mother and then evaluate that it would be beneficial for the mother's psychological profile to go through with it, it could be done. It's a complex issue, there could be some psychologist who become influenced politically or economically influenced to endorse it. How would you make sure a psychologist who is being honest in the evaluation and profiling made the decision?

It might just be a necessity for those states that want it (hence people voting for their individual state government).


Ask yourself if you think murder of a non sentient being is worse than the enslavement and torture of a sentient being.
Unless you are a vegan you make the same choice every single day.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Oct 16 2024 08:16pm
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Oct 16 2024 08:18pm
Quote (Shadowoffury @ Oct 16 2024 07:12pm)
I was happy before, but yeah, a little happier now.

What about a minute after it's born, is she still allowed to kill it or is it suddenly murder? It's just as alive, just as capable of thought and fear and pain as it was 5 minutes ago. But you maintain that at one moment you have absolutely no moral responsibility, and the next moment you are suddenly a child murdering psycho if you kill it? Seems illogical


the difference between you and me is I dont impose my moral standards on other people, whether I think abortion is immoral or not isnt the issue. regardless of MY morals, women should have full control over their bodies
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Oct 16 2024 08:21pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 16 2024 10:18pm)
the difference between you and me is I dont impose my moral standards on other people, whether I think abortion is immoral or not isnt the issue. regardless of MY morals, women should have full control over their bodies


Of course you impose your moral standards on other people, unless you are a truly nihilistic piece of shit. If you see a 6'2 220lb man hit a woman who is 5'5 120lb, you think he is a bad person, even if you are too afraid to step in. You want someone to stop him. That is imposing your moral standards on him, and it's obviously what you should do. Your moral relativism is selective. Why?

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Oct 16 2024 08:31pm
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That's about what I expected. If you can't even defend your own beliefs, how can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you attack theirs? Your arguments are just acts of devotion to a political body, totally absent critical thinking.
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#79
Oct 16 2024 08:32pm
Quote (Shadowoffury @ Oct 16 2024 06:10pm)
what


If we stop making babies we open the border
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#80
Oct 16 2024 08:33pm
Quote (ScionCapital @ Oct 16 2024 10:32pm)
If we stop making babies we open the border


We have stopped making babies. We are below the rate of replacement. So you think we should open the border?
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