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Oct 18 2024 01:13pm
Unless something was done to ensure the integrity of this election, then voting will not matter just like in 2020.
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You don't understand their culture so I don't blame you for seeing it through a "Western only perspective".

You do realize that Siddhartha Gautama(Buddha) is not the same as the Dali Llama today. The Dali Llama is a reincarnation of a specific Buddhist sect and it's well known teacher Chenrezig who famously said he will reincarnate again and again until human suffering is gone entirely(which we all know can never happen). There is a great reverence to him and that's why people want to be his slave. They think if they help him in this life that maybe they can be born into a higher caste in the next life(brahmin/clergy)

I don't think you understand that most Hindus/Buddhist believe in reincarnation and it's not the "Western crap you come back as a butterfly" it's much deeper. They actually believe their actions here in this life go into the next life.

Just like as a Catholic I don't defend the Pope. I don't defend the Dali Llama either.

If Jesus returned to Earth to reign for a 1,000 years do you think all his followers would just take pictures of him? Shake his hand? No. They would bow at his feet and cry uncontrollably because their "savior" is HERE.

That's how those "slaves" view the Dali Llama. A god incarnate. So yea they do act that way.

It's all so foreign to people who never read a "lick" of Buddhism or Hinduism in their life.

People telling me to read the Gospels again(and I have) but then if I said read the Gita you wouldn't. Totally shows that Christians think their shit don't stink and that every other "scripture" was forged by "Satan".

Yet when you read those scriptures you go, "Wow" "No wonder they don't want people to read this" "It immediately shatters the Abrahamic faith into pieces". In a GOOD way. Until you read that you'll never know but let me tell you when I read all that my relationship with Christ strengthened because I understood that the similarities outnumber the differences 100 to 1.

No person of rational logic should read the "Scripture" they were "born into" and then say "This is the only way". It's beyond ignorant.

Did I bite the apple in the garden of Eden because I read some books from another culture? Come on guys.....


You're inferring things that I did not imply. I don't care if he is the reincarnation of anybody. His actions in this life are that of a bad person. A terrible person.

It has nothing to do with culture. Again, his country had a life expectancy of 35 years when he was in charge. That is bad. Objectively. To want to put him back in power is bad. The faith people have in him because he claims to be the reincarnation of someone who may have been good a thousand years ago is bad. Buddhist faith led to a country where 95% of children were born into slavery and most starved to death before the age of five. It's not ambiguous, it's a crime against humanity.
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Oct 18 2024 02:18pm
Quote (Dmitriy @ Oct 19 2024 06:13am)
Unless something was done to ensure the integrity of this election, then voting will not matter just like in 2020.


What are you talking about? The only one who tried to commit wholescale fraud was trump and he lost.
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How many times does he forgive?
I doubt its as simple as living a complete lifetime of sin and then repenting on your death bed, i suspect the church just made that line up to try get millionaires to donate on their death beds.

perhaps you can find the answer to that listening to peoples testimony

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Quote (Shadowoffury @ 18 Oct 2024 14:52)
You're inferring things that I did not imply. I don't care if he is the reincarnation of anybody. His actions in this life are that of a bad person. A terrible person.

It has nothing to do with culture. Again, his country had a life expectancy of 35 years when he was in charge. That is bad. Objectively. To want to put him back in power is bad. The faith people have in him because he claims to be the reincarnation of someone who may have been good a thousand years ago is bad. Buddhist faith led to a country where 95% of children were born into slavery and most starved to death before the age of five. It's not ambiguous, it's a crime against humanity.


"It has nothing to do with culture" but I just told you how low caste people in that region ARE. Not how they want to be. Not I'm I could've done so much better if I was the Dali Llama. Their lifespans would be triple right? Do you know how silly you sound? The Dali Llama is a figurehead like the Pope it's just that in Italy near the Vatican it's 1st world privilege. Go to Nepal or India and you'll see real quick if you ain't rich your DEAD and those people with NOTHING choose to be by a person like the Dali Llama because it's the ONLY peace they can get. Shame on you dude.

You've never been to a 3rd world country have you? No clue how different their way of life is.

A crime against humanity? What crime? Please enlighten me.

I've been to Nepal and India have you? Ever help anyone other then yourself? Sure as fuck don't sound like it.

"Awww ya look at those dumb Buddhist they just can't figure it you as you gulp down your 2nd double cheeseburger". Give me a break dude. Check your privilege.
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Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 18 2024 11:41pm)
"It has nothing to do with culture" but I just told you how low caste people in that region ARE. Not how they want to be. Not I'm ^Shadowoffury I could've done so much better if I was the Dali Llama. Their lifespans would be triple right? Do you know how silly you sound? The Dali Llama is a figurehead like the Pope it's just that in Italy near the Vatican it's 1st world privilege. Go to Nepal or India and you'll see real quick if you ain't rich your DEAD and those people with NOTHING choose to be by a person like the Dali Llama because it's the ONLY peace they can get. Shame on you dude.

You've never been to a 3rd world country have you? No clue how different their way of life is.

A crime against humanity? What crime? Please enlighten me.

I've been to Nepal and India have you? Ever help anyone other then yourself? Sure as fuck don't sound like it.

"Awww ya look at those dumb Buddhist they just can't figure it you as you gulp down your 2nd double cheeseburger". Give me a break dude. Check your privilege.


China took over Tibet and instantly increased the life expectancy by 20 years lol. Yes, I could have done better. Literally anyone could have done better, China proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt... They did terrible things also obviously, they're China. But the people there are much better off now than they were under the Dalai Lama. Tibetans live nearly twice as long on average now lol, if you can't understand how that's better I don't know what to tell you.

I've been to India. It's not great for a lot of people, compared to the West, but it's much better than Tibet was under the Dalai Lama. People there do not have a life expectancy of 35 years. Most kids don't starve to death before age 5.

I love my privilege, and I'd like to believe that I could never be dumb enough to want to be enslaved by a cult leader like the Dalai Lama, but I know it's easy to brainwash people when you have a totalitarian grasp on every aspect of their lives.

Shame on me? You're trying to justify some of the most inhumane living conditions in recent history. Give your head a shake.
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Cain and Abel were the first two sons of Adam and Eve. Cain was the older brother and a farmer, while Abel was a shepherd.

If Humans and Chimps are cousins::Chimpanzees and bonobos are both great apes... We killed all of our brothers ...We are Cain.. :blink: I believe The bible is just a story to make us feel better About our history...Rather then identifying ourselves as a murderess species that we really were in the past..Hints of truth in the bible is all
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Golden Rule can be found in the Bible verses Matthew 7:12 and Luke 6:31:“ So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.”



and whats that?


Since most the other people are just trolling Christianity I decided to share some of the Bhagavad Gita to draw some comparisons amongst my fellow Christians.

In the Gita it is a conversation between Arjuna and Krishna who are first cousins. They are about to fight in a war over a land dispute in India. Both are contradicted by the fact that they have family and friends on BOTH sides of the conflict.

Krishna(who is actually the 7th incarnation of Vishnu(One of the 3 gods of their trinity) is essentially doing the following:

Reminding him of his duty as a warrior, advice on work, and instructions on how to live:

Duty as a warrior: "If you will not fight this righteous war, then you will fail in your duty, lose your reputation, and incur sin".

Work: "You have the right to work, but never to the fruit of work".

Selflessness: "Perform work in this world, Arjuna, as a man established within himself - without selfish attachments, and alike in success and defeat".

Action: "Nobody can remain without action, even for a moment".

Self-control: "Do everything you have to do, but not with greed, not with ego, not with lust, not with envy but with love, compassion, humility and devotion".

Self-knowledge: "All that we are is the result of what we have thought. We are made of our thoughts; we are molded by our thoughts".

Self-destructive impulses: "There are three gates leading to the hell of self-destruction for the soul—lust, anger, and greed".

This reminds me a lot of the moral questions you see in the story of "Cain and Abel" in Genesis as well as the "guidelines" you find in the 10 commandments.

I liken the relationship of Krishna to Arjuna as Jesus was to his disciples. Sharing with them the word that IS God. Jesus being God's one and only son and Arjuna being the "ONE" who is given direction by Krishna(one of Vishnu's incarnations(god)).

To show how easy it is to confuse sculpture sometimes in any religion it clouds the "true path". One of the more known quotes that was specifically quoted by J. Robert Oppenheimer(scientist who created the first nuclear bomb) quoted the Gita after witnessing the first "nuclear bomb test" saying just as Krishna said, "Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds". The thing about the quote is people thought/think that when he said "Death" he was talking about "physical death", he was actually talking about the "MIND" because it is the "MIND" that inevitably leads to destruction and chaos. It's why Oppenheimer quoted it because through his mind(intellect/ego) he created something that would inevitably cause people great harm and physical death.

I know this is a tldr but I wanted to show the comparisons because the "Gita" is the Hindus "Bible". The Gita is also written around 400 BCE which is the "closest" to the time frame that the Abrahamic faiths became the focal point of religion.

The Vedas are the oldest scriptural texts and date back to 1200 BCE and some of the most profound philosophical texts are found there(Upanishads). The Vedas are so far advanced for their time that they "changed my life". They forced me as a Catholic to ACCEPT that "peoples" who lived 1200 years before Christ were able to articulate things that we didn't discover or come purvey too until much later(1600's onward). If you look at a lot of "modern inventions" you will find an ancient Sanskrit text talking about it or explaining it in full detail 2,500 years before people like Sir Isacc Newton, Galileo, and other staple names "discovered it".

That is why I will say that the Bible and the Vedas are the closest to being the word of God because of how much depth and intelligence it took to form these scriptures. I will always say the Bible is closer to the word of God not because I'm a Catholic but because people really do "believe it with every fiber in their soul". Myself included. I just have a profound respect and admiration for the Vedas because from a philosophical perspective they allowed me to better understand "Christ" becaue of the sheer logic/intellect present there.

I apologize for quoting any Biblical scripture out of context it's just that for the last several years I've only been studying/reading Eastern texts/scripture and a few weeks ago I realized I had to re-read the Bible again because every time I read it I discover deeper meaning. I appreciate you guys for telling me to read the Gospel again just needed that extra push. God Bless and Namaste!
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