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Sep 19 2024 08:53pm
Quote (El1te @ Sep 19 2024 09:43pm)
You mean the Athenian Hoplites, who were the world's leading warriors at the time who revolutionized warfare prior to the Roman Legion who countered them, were pacifists?

No offense man but your grasp of history is absurd


I mean the Athenians would employed diplomatic rather than militaristic methodologies*. Generally the Athenian people didn't start wars. And didn't fight unless they had no other option

Quote (Shadowoffury @ Sep 19 2024 09:46pm)
lol... not a fan of history either I guess




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Quote (Shadowoffury @ Sep 19 2024 09:45pm)
I not only see the condescension, I consciously typed it out.

You said that you have evidence that there is no god, and then it turned out that you did not. Either you still have faith that there is no god, or you have realized your mistake and are no longer an atheist. It seems to be the former


Evidence provided you didn't accept as such. Sorry?
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Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 08:53pm)
I mean the Athenians would employed diplomatic rather than militaristic methodologies*. Generally the Athenian people didn't start wars. And didn't fight unless they had no other option


Because their military might was so strong that their enemies had no choice but to be diplomatic, which was mutually beneficial as warrior lives were valuable

If you're weak your enemy just laughs as they slaughter you
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Quote (El1te @ Sep 19 2024 10:02pm)
Because their military might was so strong that their enemies had no choice but to be diplomatic, which was mutually beneficial as warrior lives were valuable

If you're weak your enemy just laughs as they slaughter you


See * Persian slave army.
You completely discount their genuine want to be peaceful.

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Quote (majorblood @ Sep 19 2024 09:38pm)

christian law is not immoral compared to moral relativism of the past century


Christian law is not immoral based on christian law, that's about it. You're comparing your religion to a standard that was set by your religion, of course it adheres to it.
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Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Sep 19 2024 08:04pm)
Christian law is not immoral based on christian law, that's about it. You're comparing your religion to a standard that was set by your religion, of course it adheres to it.


yea we have to set a standard of objectivity
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Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 09:03pm)
See * Persian slave army.
You completely discount their genuine want to be peaceful.


Everyone wants peace, but anyone wise recognizes the only way to get there is to be strong enough to deter your enemies

See: the present US hegemony

What are those two carrier strike groups doing moored off Israel?

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Quote (El1te @ Sep 19 2024 10:13pm)
Everyone wants peace, but anyone wise recognizes the only way to get there is to be strong enough to deter your enemies

See: the present US hegemony

What are those two carrier strike groups doing moored off Israel?


Not everyone lol. Quite a few nations want war. Russia is an obvious one. China in the south Chinese sea. Iran. Numerous others.

Carrier strike groups have had zero affect in preventing war zones in the mid east. And according to military experts are losing ground as the premier fighting platform.
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Quote (majorblood @ Sep 19 2024 11:06pm)
yea we have to set a standard of objectivity


How lucky that your standard is THE standard of objectivity.
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Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 09:24pm)
Not everyone lol. Quite a few nations want war. Russia is an obvious one. China in the south Chinese sea. Iran. Numerous others.

Carrier strike groups have had zero affect in preventing war zones in the mid east. And according to military experts are losing ground as the premier fighting platform.


I should clarify to say peace on their terms, everyone who wants war wants a peace but on their terms, under their authority, and therein lies the heart of human conflict, theoretically a global peace can only be attained with a global hegemon which can impose and enforce its rule across every corner of the globe and on every square meter of land

Regional peace has been achieved numerous times with the Pax Mongol, Pax Brittanica, Pax Romana and the present Pax Americana where we have no war or conflict within our controlled region

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