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Aug 27 2024 08:20am
Quote (DragoniteVii @ Aug 27 2024 10:06am)
So what? Again. They are just people who want to live their lives. 99% of the time. Most of them probably don't give a damn about sports and at most; just want to be called whatever they want to be called. And telling kids that they can be whatever they want to be has been socially acceptable and encouraged since forever. I see no objective reason why that would stop here, with this specific topic. Vast majority of trans kids aren't doing anything irreversible to themselves and don't even start any sort of treatment until at least close to adulthood. Again, people are chronically online. See the same 10 or 15 cases being echoed and think this is some widespread movement where the same things are constantly happening all the time. That's not how it is in real life.

So then you have this, permanently damage kid who can’t have kids or have any sensation.
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Aug 27 2024 08:23am
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So then you have this, permanently damage kid who can’t have kids or have any sensation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6V0p3_bd6w


Niche cases. Which happens with literally every subset of every population. In some way. Ask yourself, of all the things to be bothered by. To be concerned over. People literally dying by the drove in some situations, why are you concerned about how some kids' genetals might not work? Of all the problems in the world.

I can't be the only one who thinks this is insane.
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Niche cases. Which happens with literally every subset of every population. In some way. Ask yourself, of all the things to be bothered by. To be concerned over. People literally dying by the drove in some situations, why are you concerned about how some kids' genetals might not work? Of all the problems in the world.

I can't be the only one who thinks this is insane.


So you’re saying transgender surgery is healthy and perfectly acceptable then.
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Quote (DragoniteVii @ Aug 27 2024 10:17am)
The primary premise of what you're saying isn't even true. Transgender people make up 0.6% of the population. Less than 1%

What are you talking about? Also, again, what does this have to do with you and your personal life? What about the majority of transpeople who don't regret their choice? What you're saying makes no sense if examined even slightly.

Why are you concerned about some random celebrities kids? The entire argument seems like it's basically 'I don't like when people do this, so they shouldn't because it's wrong'. Like even in the absolute worse case scenario? Who tf are you to decide what people and thier kids should do with themselves? Again. This is truly weirdo behavior. Go outside.


Saying something is not true and then not giving a single argument to disprove it isn't how debates work my friend, try again.

Trans makes up 0.6% of the population, so the probability of Megan Fox having 3 kids that identify as trans simultaneously statistically is essentially zero. I gave that as an example of how it is so obviously pushed onto kids. It's not up to me to decide but it's obvious what weirdos are doing pushing this toxic garbage onto kids.

There was a time when kids were goths, skaters, scene, whatever other trend of the time you want to go back to. That has been replaced by life altering toxic trends such as this. Shameful to go after mentally underdeveloped kids to brainwash them and ruin their lives.
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I am not at all concerned with what other people choose to do with their bodies. It's insane to be. People have the right to pursue happiness however they see fit. If that is thier answer for themselves, let em have at it.
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Saying something is not true and then not giving a single argument to disprove it isn't how debates work my friend, try again.

Trans makes up 0.6% of the population, so the probability of Megan Fox having 3 kids that identify as trans simultaneously statistically is essentially zero. I gave that as an example of how it is so obviously pushed onto kids. It's not up to me to decide but it's obvious what weirdos are doing pushing this toxic garbage onto kids.

There was a time when kids were goths, skaters, scene, whatever other trend of the time you want to go back to. That has been replaced by life altering toxic trends such as this. Shameful to go after mentally underdeveloped kids to brainwash them and ruin their lives.


That is literally the 'proof'. You are sweating over a small group of people making decisions for themselves. Telling kids that trans people exist isn't 'pushing it onto them'. And if they decide to pursue that path, that is their choice and the only people who should have any say in the matter are their legal guardians. Not random ass people on the internet who are against it for whatever weirdo reasons. You don't know them. You dont know the specifics of thier lives. So wtf are you talking about 'they are being brainwashed and ruined'? That isn't for you to ascertain to decide. Again. Go outside, please.
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Niche cases. Which happens with literally every subset of every population. In some way. Ask yourself, of all the things to be bothered by. To be concerned over. People literally dying by the drove in some situations, why are you concerned about how some kids' genetals might not work? Of all the problems in the world.

I can't be the only one who thinks this is insane.

30% is niche cases? The regret rate is even higher.


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I am not at all concerned with what other people choose to do with their bodies. It's insane to be. People have the right to pursue happiness however they see fit. If that is thier answer for themselves, let em have at it.


You’re right. Then little kids should be able to choose whatever they want. Let them have alcohol, drivers license and guns too then.
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Quote (Tarisus @ Aug 27 2024 10:33am)
30% is niche cases? The regret rate is even higher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJoxNcydsoA



You’re right. Then little kids should be able to choose whatever they want. Let them have alcohol, drivers license and guns too then.


Yes. Even if that's true 30% of less than 1% is an astronomically low number. And even still it's none of our business.

Your example about guns and other things are nonsense, since those things inherently involve harm in some way, whereas a boy deciding he wants to be a girl does not. It's really not a hard distinction to make. The only 'harm' in the situation are the perceived values of outsiders who disagree with the choice that people make for thier personal lives. Again. It's weird.
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That is literally the 'proof'. You are sweating over a small group of people making decisions for themselves. Telling kids that trans people exist isn't 'pushing it onto them'. And if they decide to pursue that path, that is their choice and the only people who should have any say in the matter are their legal guardians. Not random ass people on the internet who are against it for whatever weirdo reasons. You don't know them. You dont know the specifics of thier lives. So wtf are you talking about 'they are being brainwashed and ruined'? That isn't for you to ascertain to decide. Again. Go outside, please.


They're not, illustrated by the Megan Fox example. It's a statistical argument, if all you can muster is to tell me to go outside and it's not my business as you want to take advantage of children... well that's revealing.
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Aug 27 2024 08:41am
You are literally the one who is concerned about a random celebrities children's genitals, dude. Just consider that for a moment. So what if all 3 of her children are trans? It makes no difference whatsoever to any of the points I've made. Again, why are you so concerned about this? Bro, our toilet water in America is cleaner than most other countries' drinking water. And way more children are dying as a result than the number of children here to want to be another gender. Yet this is what you're hyperfocusing on. I'll never not think it's creepy.
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