Quote (blahaj @ Aug 7 2024 12:11pm)

Being anti immigration tends to be inherently racist, while there is much to be discussed regarding conflicting cultures/religion bleeding in, this is almost always not the case and racism almost always is

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Being anti immigration tends to be inherently racist, while there is much to be discussed regarding conflicting cultures/religion bleeding in, this is almost always not the case and racism almost always is

Quote (SBD @ 6 Aug 2024 12:41)

Brampton is terrible now. You have strips of "legal" immigration offices that are solely designed to essentially manipulate current policy in favour of bringing as many people over as possible.

I live in the Arctic, as far north as you can go basically in Canada, and we now have little pockets where certain industrious individuals have found ways to circumvent current legislation in a legal matter and all they do is take 20% of the individual they bring in Salary the first year, 15% the next, 10%, done. There's more "temporary" foreign workers here than Inuit now and rather than developing job skills from locals, the territorial gov't is happy just hiring foreign workers. Its only added to local poverty.

It blows my mind. Everyone knows its happening, no one seems to care, the majority of income generated is going back over-seas and nothing is being re-invested into these already impoverished communities.

Quote (18nomaUSEast @ Aug 7 2024 01:35pm)

Eyyy welcome back

Rioters be rioting

Quote (SBD @ Aug 7 2024 08:43pm)

Indeed. You're a GTA person, I believe. You must see some impacts. Not to say there isn't positive impacts here. Like I said previously boomers cant be expected to work until their 75. We need workers. Gov't in my opinion is just doing a poor job administering.

Quote (iLoveMyUsername @ Aug 7 2024 01:50pm)

What if they raised wages instead of suppressing wages? I'm sure more would be eager to jump on those jobs. If everything go up in price, you can't expect people to be happy to work more hours for less. There's 0 chance someone born in a first world country will be able to compete versus someone from India who'll be more than happy to work for 3-5$ per hour after paying 40-60k for that job while living 10-15 in a room with a stench of shit and piss.

Quote (SBD @ 7 Aug 2024 15:43)

Indeed. You're a GTA person, I believe. You must see some impacts. Not to say there isn't positive impacts here. Like I said previously boomers cant be expected to work until their 75. We need workers. Gov't in my opinion is just doing a poor job administering.

Quote (SBD @ Aug 7 2024 02:57pm)

Without any further regulation or constraint on corporate profits everyone would just complain the prices are too high and they cant afford the end product. Is that a bad thing? Maybe not, maybe we don't need 50 coffee chains or locations on each block.

Are we about to restrict large conglomerates, probably not. But we could do it in-directly by restricting the flow to skilled immigrants primarily, opening up our restrictions around healthcare / allow a challenge examination to bypass the silly academic requirements that restrict skilled immigrants from being things like a nurse, something we badly need.

Suddenly corporations wouldn't have all that cheap labour and would be forced to do something. Be it close locations, pay more, ect.


Its a very complex issue though, especially in a place like Canada where we do clearly lack labour capacity, have massive land capacity but lack housing and public infrastructure to accommodate anything.

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The right wing cope for what's happening in Britain is to go on about Keir Starmer.

The left wing cope for what's happening is to blame the "far right".

The reality is much, much worse.

This has nothing to do with the current government and a few racist idiots kicking off are the least of our worries.

Yes, the violent criminals should be prosecuted and given harsh sentences. And yes, Starmer and senior police officers have handled this badly.

But the fundamentals of this situation are inescapable.

Britain has a stagnant economy that relies on cheap foreign labour and a population that is utterly fed up of mass immigration.

We have an open border. No that's not an exaggeration. When I came to Britain in 1996, net *legal* immigration was around 55k a year. That's the number of people who come here *illegally* every year now.

We have a Muslim population, which like any large group is made up of all sorts of people. Most of them are decent and law abiding. But as a population the Muslim community has not integrated: more British Muslims joined ISIS and Al Nusra than the British army, per the Guardian and the New York Times. Google it.

The Equalities Act introduced "protected characteristics" which effectively made members of certain racial, ethnic and religious groups entitled to special treatment.

Partly as a result of this and partly due to the broader introduction of the idea of "diversity and inclusion", the police, social workers and all manner of government officials turned a blind eye to crimes committed by particular racial and ethnic groups. A good example would be so-called "grooming gangs" which are groups comprised of predominantly Pakistani and Bangladeshi men who targeted white and Sikh girls for gang rape. According to estimates there were several hundred thousand victims. These crimes have gone on for over 40 and continue to happen today.

The white British population is in demographic decline. They are not having enough children, while immigrants and ethnic minorities have lots of children. Combined with mass immigration of 600,000-700,000 a year, most British cities now look unrecognisable. White Britons are already a minority in London and other major cities and will become a minority in the country itself within our lifetimes.

It's important to understand that Britain isn't like America. Until very, very recently (2001) white British people made up nearly 90% of the population. Britain is not and has never been a "nation of immigrants". But it will be soon. Despite the fact that the British people voted against this at every opportunity. They voted against it in 2010, 2015, 2016 (Brexit), 2017 and 2019 when the people they elected promised to stop mass immigration and end illegal immigration. At the last election, they gave up on voting for the Conservatives and either voted for Nigel Farage's anti-immigration Reform Party or didn't vote at all, hence the lowest turnout for a century.

This is one of the reasons you see increasing levels of censorship and thought policing in the UK. As people begin to express dissent against what is happening, maintaining this state of affairs requires more and more suppression. This is one of the reasons they are going after
@elonmusk
- he has created a platform where we can see that the Emperor is naked with our own eyes.

The riots you are seeing have many underlying causes. Many of the people who are burning things down and looting shops are just violent thugs looking for a cheap thrill. The authorities will throw the book at them which they have to do.

But what they won't do is address the cause of the tensions which are bubbling away under the surface. They will give the can another big kick down the road.

I hope this particular flare up of violence can be calmed but you're kidding yourself if you think that will be the end of it.

P.S. There were many brave people who warned us this would happen. They were all demonised and ignored.

Quote (dro94 @ Aug 7 2024 11:00pm)

An absolutely flawless assessment of the cause of the UK riots.