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Jul 18 2024 07:40pm
It actually doesnt matter who is picked at this point. All are bad options since corporations write laws now and not people.

The United States is on track to take the path of the Ottomans ~ Regional splits leading to new political borders
Dont be surprised if the United States of America doesnt exist in 100 years. Not that any of us will see it.

Major unrest in the general population
An ever increasing disparity in wealth concentrated into the top 1% individuals
Attempted government coups by one or more factions fueled by nationalism (This one is big because history is actually repeating itself as we type)
Huge divides in beliefs between the political spheres
Insane amounts of national debt inflated even further by bad tax policy
Lackluster economy propped up by an overworked population; massive personal credit card debt; and insanely overpriced exports (See technologies like Nvidia, Microsoft, Apple, Etc)

I mean the far right failed to win in France and the UK but this country is filled with idiot rednecks so yeah...

might be reaching.
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Jul 18 2024 08:49pm
Maybe the other conventional wisdom I should have payed attention to is that nobody does a circular firing squad quite like the democrats

Multiple presidents have won elections even as far down in the polls as Biden is now, at this point. Bush daddy the obvious one after Dukakis cordially invited Willie Horton to rape his wife to death. And pragmatically, nobody in the democratic mainstream has any chance of beating Trump at current polling numbers, least of all Harris, and they'll obviously lose a huge chunk of the black vote by passing over Harris. Anyone taking over for Biden would just be feeding themselves into a woodchipper, so it begs the question of whats the bloody point of all this? And that point should be obvious, rats on a sinking ship with no way to escape are just running amok and flailing.
Democrats could get their shit together, keep Biden on the ticket, and either pray something happens in the next few months to turn around the election, drum up some october surprise, or just see if Trump's wave crests early and they can recoup some ground organically. They have multiple pathways to victory. Gambling that they can push a new 3rd candidate (who, Dean fucking Philips? lmao) and spend the next few months trying to introduce him to a disinterested country, is not a pathway to victory.
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Jul 18 2024 09:08pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 18 Jul 2024 22:49)
Maybe the other conventional wisdom I should have payed attention to is that nobody does a circular firing squad quite like the democrats

Multiple presidents have won elections even as far down in the polls as Biden is now, at this point. Bush daddy the obvious one after Dukakis cordially invited Willie Horton to rape his wife to death. And pragmatically, nobody in the democratic mainstream has any chance of beating Trump at current polling numbers, least of all Harris, and they'll obviously lose a huge chunk of the black vote by passing over Harris. Anyone taking over for Biden would just be feeding themselves into a woodchipper, so it begs the question of whats the bloody point of all this? And that point should be obvious, rats on a sinking ship with no way to escape are just running amok and flailing.
Democrats could get their shit together, keep Biden on the ticket, and either pray something happens in the next few months to turn around the election, drum up some october surprise, or just see if Trump's wave crests early and they can recoup some ground organically. They have multiple pathways to victory. Gambling that they can push a new 3rd candidate (who, Dean fucking Philips? lmao) and spend the next few months trying to introduce him to a disinterested country, is not a pathway to victory.


Trump is currently burying any (D) hope right now. You know Jill and Hunter and Barack and Hillary are punching the air as we speak.

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Quote (Bruv @ Jul 18 2024 08:40pm)
It actually doesnt matter who is picked at this point. All are bad options since corporations write laws now and not people.

The United States is on track to take the path of the Ottomans ~ Regional splits leading to new political borders
Dont be surprised if the United States of America doesnt exist in 100 years. Not that any of us will see it.

Major unrest in the general population
An ever increasing disparity in wealth concentrated into the top 1% individuals
Attempted government coups by one or more factions fueled by nationalism (This one is big because history is actually repeating itself as we type)
Huge divides in beliefs between the political spheres
Insane amounts of national debt inflated even further by bad tax policy
Lackluster economy propped up by an overworked population; massive personal credit card debt; and insanely overpriced exports (See technologies like Nvidia, Microsoft, Apple, Etc)

I mean the far right failed to win in France and the UK but this country is filled with idiot rednecks so yeah...

might be reaching.


The U.S. is the largest corporation in the world and it does write its "own" laws. What you are missing is the inverse of whats true in what Mitt Romney said "Corporations are people"
When a person transacts with a Social Security Number, especially as an employee, the proceeds there from are viewed as government property which can be taxed.
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Jul 19 2024 03:03am
Biden reading his covid results and seeing all the democrats doing secret meetings without him:
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Jul 19 2024 07:36am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 18 2024 05:21pm)
At this point, divided government doesn't really help Democrats further their agenda. They've maneuvered themselves into a dead end when it comes to the Supreme Court and the geographic hyperconcentration of their electoral coalition. What they really need is a federal trifecta in which 51+ Dem senators are on board with nuking the filibuster, packing the Supreme Court and granting DC and PR statehood. If Trump 2.0 goes south, 2026 and 2028 are their best shot at accomplishing just that.


Time is the tool of the liberal agenda, and the enemy of the conservative agenda. as time passes society changes in a liberal direction, the liberals gain supporters unless the conservatives liberalize and readjust. the gop is entrenched, but there are no items on the liberal agenda that require immediate action. the modern GOP is the party screeching about the need for immediate action. other than trump what are the liberals highlighting as an emergency? nothing. meanwhile in GOP land its the border, wars, inflation, etc. every item on the gop agenda is an immediate action item.
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Jul 19 2024 04:40pm
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Time is the tool of the liberal agenda, and the enemy of the conservative agenda. as time passes society changes in a liberal direction, the liberals gain supporters unless the conservatives liberalize and readjust. the gop is entrenched, but there are no items on the liberal agenda that require immediate action. the modern GOP is the party screeching about the need for immediate action. other than trump what are the liberals highlighting as an emergency? nothing. meanwhile in GOP land its the border, wars, inflation, etc. every item on the gop agenda is an immediate action item.


This idea that society only ever becomes more liberal over time is not grounded in reality. Look at the US and Europe during the 1980s, or the world in general during the 1930s. Or look at Iran pre- and post-revolution. Even in some democracies like Indonesia, Bangladesh or Turkey. Ancient Rome was more liberal in a lot of ways than what came after it for the following ~1000 years.

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Jul 19 2024 04:49pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 19 Jul 2024 04:49)
Maybe the other conventional wisdom I should have payed attention to is that nobody does a circular firing squad quite like the democrats

Multiple presidents have won elections even as far down in the polls as Biden is now, at this point. Bush daddy the obvious one after Dukakis cordially invited Willie Horton to rape his wife to death. And pragmatically, nobody in the democratic mainstream has any chance of beating Trump at current polling numbers, least of all Harris, and they'll obviously lose a huge chunk of the black vote by passing over Harris. Anyone taking over for Biden would just be feeding themselves into a woodchipper, so it begs the question of whats the bloody point of all this? And that point should be obvious, rats on a sinking ship with no way to escape are just running amok and flailing.
Democrats could get their shit together, keep Biden on the ticket, and either pray something happens in the next few months to turn around the election, drum up some october surprise, or just see if Trump's wave crests early and they can recoup some ground organically. They have multiple pathways to victory. Gambling that they can push a new 3rd candidate (who, Dean fucking Philips? lmao) and spend the next few months trying to introduce him to a disinterested country, is not a pathway to victory.

Multiple presidents have been as far down in the polls as Biden and turned it around - but they generally did so by pivoting on their message and/or by campaigning vigorously. Biden can't do either of that. He's too old and senile to out-campaign or out-smart the Trump campaign, and he's coming off of four years in office, he can't credibly promise an entirely new, different policy direction. His only hope is for an external event or a huge, unforced error by the Trump campaign to bail him out. And at this point, Biden is so cooked that he might not even be able to exploit a Trump blunder.

Which is why it would imho make sense for Harris to take over. Yes, she's awful, yes, she will also lose to Trump. But she at least has a pulse and a functioning brain. She can at least campaign hard and try to mitigate the Dem losses, perhaps save some downballot races. She can also more credibly promise a policy course correction of sorts. And if Trump does give her an opening by making a huge unforced error, she is better positioned to exploit it. Moreover, it's blatantly obvious to anybody who's paying ANY attention that a vote for Biden effectively means a vote for president Harris anyway, so why not end the charade and make it official?

The only argument against running with her is that she will most likely be thrown into an unwinnable race - but why should that matter to Democrats? It's not like she will be future presidential material anyway. And from her own perspective, taking the 10-15% chance she will have in 2024 is presumably still higher than her chance of becoming the nominee in an open race in 2028 and then winning that year's general election. So running now is still her best shot at the presidency.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 19 2024 04:49pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 19 2024 11:40pm)
This idea that society only ever becomes more liberal over time is not grounded in reality. Look at the US and Europe during the 1980s, or the world in general during the 1930s. Or look at Iran pre- and post-revolution. Even in some democracies like Indonesia, Bangladesh or Turkey. Ancient Rome was more liberal in a lot of ways than what came after it for the following ~1000 years.


Canada is an example of what happen when you let Liberals run the show. India invading the country and if you speak against it, you're a white supremacist. Indian shitting on beaches, only hiring their own and not adapting to their new country is one of the many problems Canada face against this invasion.

If you go to Walmart or many other places where they took over, they speak in Hindu/Punjabi with each other even on the intercom . If you don't speak that language, you're usually fired because you ain't on par with the rest of the team which is from India.

They are taking over the housing market and only rent to their own at 10-20 persons per household and send back all the profit to India so most of the time, they make money and send it back home which is bad for the economy.

Convincing people that they are racist/bigot and all those buzzword create a situation where people don't wanna stand out in fear of getting jailed/bank account frozen which they can't afford which lead to them taking over (most of the time, if they break the law or the rules, it's literally a catch and release situation which show them they can go all in).

All that to say, Liberals killed Canada with the help of a scared population who's letting it happen. Only time Canadians are eager to participate is at pride events.
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Jul 19 2024 06:13pm
Quote (iLoveMyUsername @ 20 Jul 2024 01:04)
Canada is an example of what happen when you let Liberals run the show. India invading the country and if you speak against it, you're a white supremacist. Indian shitting on beaches, only hiring their own and not adapting to their new country is one of the many problems Canada face against this invasion.

If you go to Walmart or many other places where they took over, they speak in Hindu/Punjabi with each other even on the intercom . If you don't speak that language, you're usually fired because you ain't on par with the rest of the team which is from India.

They are taking over the housing market and only rent to their own at 10-20 persons per household and send back all the profit to India so most of the time, they make money and send it back home which is bad for the economy.

Convincing people that they are racist/bigot and all those buzzword create a situation where people don't wanna stand out in fear of getting jailed/bank account frozen which they can't afford which lead to them taking over (most of the time, if they break the law or the rules, it's literally a catch and release situation which show them they can go all in).

All that to say, Liberals killed Canada with the help of a scared population who's letting it happen. Only time Canadians are eager to participate is at pride events.


"The greatest trick global capital ever pulled was convincing the political left that open borders and unchecked mass immigration should be considered leftist policy."

That being said, you're being melodramatic.
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