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Quote (IgoSoHard @ Feb 12 2024 06:33pm)
Logic, reason, common sense, intellect, rationale, etc


This does not illuminate any process for reaching final dispositions regarding mental illness.
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Mentally unstable people that instead of having their issues addressed have received wide-scale 'buy in' for their mental illness, and not only buy in but false affirmations that some specific people are to blame why the world is the way it is. I think these types of episodes will only increase with 30% of zoomers identifying as lgbtq and an economic environment that gets tougher as the debt actually starts to matter. Some large scale themes IMO will come together to make this more common place.


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No, actually, that is not how that works at all. It's okay, I understand that you're a layperson without any formal education or training in mental health. Too bad that understanding isn't mutual.


Its exactly how it works. Reasonable people can recognize the immediate presentation of mental illness by people exhibiting its clear and unmistakable signs, and reasonable people can also recognize the perversion of an entire branch of medicine and sociology by crusading activists. Democracy and the jury system are premised on reasonable people being able to discern the basic workings of our society, even if an 'expert' with an advanced formal education and training in mental health wants to tell them that acktually gluing electrodes to someone's head and running high voltage through their brain will correct their antisocial behaviors.

Any random joe on the street can tell you when the sky is blue. If they see dark clouds with flashes of lightning headed their way, they can tell you its a clear sign a storm is coming. If the weatherwoman with a degree in feminist glaciology comes along to tell us about how the sky is actually presenting a stage of transition informed by ancestral native spirits, the average joe won't bother lending her an umbrella.
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Its exactly how it works. Reasonable people can recognize the immediate presentation of mental illness by people exhibiting its clear and unmistakable signs, and reasonable people can also recognize the perversion of an entire branch of medicine and sociology by crusading activists. Democracy and the jury system are premised on reasonable people being able to discern the basic workings of our society, even if an 'expert' with an advanced formal education and training in mental health wants to tell them that acktually gluing electrodes to someone's head and running high voltage through their brain will correct their antisocial behaviors.

Any random joe on the street can tell you when the sky is blue. If they see dark clouds with flashes of lightning headed their way, they can tell you its a clear sign a storm is coming. If the weatherwoman with a degree in feminist glaciology comes along to tell us about how the sky is actually presenting a stage of transition informed by ancestral native spirits, the average joe won't bother lending her an umbrella.


No, it's literally not how that works at all. It's bizarre that you and various people in PaRD believe yourself capable of making claims about something that you literally do not have the education, training, or license to have any level of veracity. And yet, you repeatedly make claims from such a position of ignorance. Further, your particular knowledge around psychiatry's history regarding transgender individuals is just as paltry.

You have a layperson's understanding of this matter, but the confidence of an expert.

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No, it's literally not how that works at all. It's bizarre that you and various people in PaRD believe yourself capable of making claims about something that you literally do not have the education, training, or license to have any level of veracity. And yet, you repeatedly make claims from such a position of ignorance. Further, your particular knowledge around psychiatry's history regarding transgender individuals is just as paltry.

You have a layperson's understanding of this matter, but the confidence of an expert.


Tbh you don't need to be educated, trained or licensed to tell when something ain't right

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No, it's literally not how that works at all. It's bizarre that you and various people in PaRD believe yourself capable of making claims about something that you literally do not have the education, training, or license to have any level of veracity. And yet, you repeatedly make claims from such a position of ignorance. Further, your particular knowledge around psychiatry's history regarding transgender individuals is just as paltry.

You have a layperson's understanding of this matter, but the confidence of an expert.


When 'experts' are wrong, its up to laypeople to identify it. Which they do. The average person knows that criminology is all sorts of fucked up when the agenda pushing judiciary and bureaucrats all with fancy sociology degrees wind up setting murderers free and systematically refusing to enforce laws already on the books, resulting in a massive crime wave and spike in homicides. If the criminals can figure out that you can steal a car and get caught and suffer no consequences, reasonable citizens sure can identify something is wrong. The average person knows that to get an education, training and license in gender studies you have to subject yourself to an ideological purity test where any dissenting opinions are banned and will get you persecuted, and the result has been a uniform social agenda pushed by those accredited 'experts'.
The populist movement isn't defined by a streak of anti-intellectualism rejecting the experts, its defined by an appeal to common sense and logic that rejects militant dogma. And its hardly unprecedented in history. I'm sure there were some very well educated, trained and licensed bishops and cardinals in the church who enforced the absolute truths of their theocracy and could explain in detail their reasoning. It didn't make them any less oppressive or any more correct, and it sure sparked a heckuva backlash

History is absolutely chock full of examples of agenda pushing morons preaching their truths and denouncing anyone who contradicts them as charlatans, as they go out and commit whatever harms stem from Osteopathy, Electroshock, Phrenology, Eugenics, you name it. It doesn't take an expert to recognize the harms of pumping a kid full of estrogen because he acted insubordinate and churlish.

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Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 12 2024 07:07pm)
Tbh you don't need to be educated, trained or licensed to tell when something ain't right

Ever seen a wobbly bridge?


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When 'experts' are wrong, its up to laypeople to identify it. Which they do. The average person knows that criminology is all sorts of fucked up when the agenda pushing judiciary and bureaucrats all with fancy sociology degrees wind up setting murderers free and systematically refusing to enforce laws already on the books, resulting in a massive crime wave and spike in homicides. If the criminals can figure out that you can steal a car and get caught and suffer no consequences, reasonable citizens sure can identify something is wrong. The average person knows that to get an education, training and license in gender studies you have to subject yourself to an ideological purity test where any dissenting opinions are banned and will get you persecuted, and the result has been a uniform social agenda pushed by those accredited 'experts'.
The populist movement isn't defined by a streak of anti-intellectualism rejecting the experts, its defined by an appeal to common sense and logic that rejects militant dogma. And its hardly unprecedented in history. I'm sure there were some very well educated, trained and licensed bishops and cardinals in the church who enforced the absolute truths of their theocracy and could explain in detail their reasoning. It didn't make them any less oppressive or any more correct.

History is absolutely chock full of examples of agenda pushing morons preaching their truths and denouncing anyone who contradicts them as charlatans, as they go out and commit whatever harms stem from Osteopathy, Electroshock, Phrenology, Eugenics, you name it. It doesn't take an expert to recognize the harms of pumping a kid full of estrogen because he acted insubordinate and churlish.


Y'all use "mental illness" to convey "Thing I don't like". Just say the latter.
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Feb 12 2024 09:15pm
Its funny how when a very clearly mentally unstable lunatic attempts to shoot up a church, instead of condemning said event, the sjw’s want to focus on the characterization of said mentally unstable lunatic. By funny I mean not surprising at all & completely retarded.
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Feb 12 2024 09:17pm
To give one example of our local experts hard at work;
https://www.startribune.com/two-suburban-women-involved-in-2017-murder-released-early-under-revised-minnesota-law/600342957/

the state DFL and judicial bureaucracy all turned over the felony murder rule in Minnesota, restricting it and revoking sentences for people already in prison as Mary Moriarty did today. The activists want to make an argument about how unfair and punitive it is that someone gets sentenced for murder when they didn't "intend" to cause a death. Nearly 900 years of formalized history of the felony murder rule in anglo-saxon law has recognized what the average person has no trouble identifying: That if you commit an inherently dangerous felony act and know it could get someone killed, criminal liability for any deaths that occur from your felony attaches to you. Two women organized an armed home invasion and went in first before their boyfriends murdered the guy inside. A reasonable person can follow the basic logic that they set in motion the events, know the risks, purposefully exposed a victim to the risk, and it resulted in their death. It takes an expert who just happens to be a crusading social activist, to come and tell us why 900 years of law tradition and basic logic are all actually wrong and we need to free the hardened drug gangbangers
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