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Nov 7 2023 06:49am
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and would refute the idea this is a deep state over up by the police intentionally hiding it


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they ARE intentionally hiding it, thats why it had to be LEAKED for the public to find out the content of the manifesto
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they ARE intentionally hiding it, thats why it had to be LEAKED for the public to find out the content of the manifesto


Locked in evidence isn’t the same thing as hiding it though

Let me ask it this way, Does this manifesto change ANY sentiment about this shooting?
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Let me ask it this way, Does this manifesto change ANY sentiment about this shooting?


ofcourse, the manifesto revealed exactly who radicalized the mass shooter
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ofcourse, the manifesto revealed exactly who radicalized the mass shooter


Oh ok

I went through a couple of the pics and saw a bunch of hateful messages, what I would expect of a mentally Ill lunatic

But you have it narrowed to one entity that radicalized this shooter

Share pls?
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Oh ok

I went through a couple of the pics and saw a bunch of hateful messages, what I would expect of a mentally Ill lunatic

But you have it narrowed to one entity that radicalized this shooter

Share pls?


The content of the manifesto, the anti-White"oppression by white privilege" conspiracy theory - is being taught in the USA public school system

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The content of the manifesto, the anti-White"oppression by white privilege" conspiracy theory - is being taught in the USA public school system


Anti white oppression talk isn’t just in public schools, it’s social media, internet in general. The internet will create positive feedback circle jerk loop for ANY type of harmful thinking ideology. Any and every rather

And I don’t know the actual number so insert it if wrong but this is the only major trans shooting that I can recall

N = 1 does not highlight an endemic problem

If you could boil down mass shootings in general to 2 or 3 vague reasons (such as mental illness, lack of family , abundance of guns etc) how high is anti white rhetoric on the list of why mass shootings occur to you?



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Anti white oppression talk isn’t just in public schools, it’s social media, internet in general. The internet will create positive feedback circle jerk loop for ANY type of harmful thinking ideology. Any and every rather


"The internet is bad" excuse does not cover for the fact that THE MOST POWERFUL forces in Western culture have been demonizing white people openly and explicitly for years now.

Here is a chart demonstrating the spike of anti-White rhetoric form some "most respected" mainstream outlets with curiously a nearly identical political leaning.



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And I don’t know the actual number so insert it if wrong but this is the only major trans shooting that I can recall

N = 1 does not highlight an endemic problem


It's not the only major killing of victims specifically targeted for being White though.

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If you could boil down mass shootings in general to 2 or 3 vague reasons (such as mental illness, lack of family , abundance of guns etc) how high is anti white rhetoric on the list of why mass shootings occur to you?


If anti white rhetoric is not that high on the list of why mass shootings occur, is that a good enough reason to allow Left-wing culture to keep pushing anti white rhetoric unopposed ?

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"The internet is bad" excuse does not cover for the fact that THE MOST POWERFUL forces in Western culture have been demonizing white people openly and explicitly for years now.

https://i.imgur.com/6haisJ8.jpg



It's not the only major killing of victims specifically targeted for being White though.



If anti white rhetoric is not that high on the list of why mass shootings occur, is that a good enough reason to allow Left-wing culture to keep pushing anti white rhetoric unopposed ?


I’m against all hateful rhetoric

But I think focusing on this point, actually takes away from tackling the issue of mass shootings specifically, since it is objectively an outlier

To the question that you didn’t answer, and I think you would agree with me, is that this individual was a mentally deranged person that escaped the radar, like so many others… which gets closer to the crux of this issue. Tackling the mental health epidemic

Also didn’t this particular shooter attend private school?


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Anti white oppression talk isn’t just in public schools, it’s social media, internet in general. The internet will create positive feedback circle jerk loop for ANY type of harmful thinking ideology. Any and every rather

And I don’t know the actual number so insert it if wrong but this is the only major trans shooting that I can recall

N = 1 does not highlight an endemic problem

If you could boil down mass shootings in general to 2 or 3 vague reasons (such as mental illness, lack of family , abundance of guns etc) how high is anti white rhetoric on the list of why mass shootings occur to you?


The shooting or motive are not the story here. Before I get into it the gay club in Colorado was shot up by a super oppressed gay dude and that story was erased from memory the literal second it couldn’t be pinned on straight white men.

The story is how blatantly the government and media jumps on any tragic event which by the weakest means allows them to demonize *gasp* republicans (as if there is even a difference anymore), guns, or white people. These sick fucks will take any opportunity to gleefully dance on dead bodies if it lets them score votes.

This is a glaring example. The White House explicitly said the victim is the shooter herself. That is unheard of, but they will do and say anything to keep a strong hold on the votes of anybody who isn’t a straight white man, who isn’t the key demographic to winning elections.

There was a clear effort to cover up any motive. Every single time there is an opportunity to spin something into a “hate crime”, or if it actually is a “hate crime”, we have every piece of evidence pointing towards that before the bodies cool down, as well as a national conversation. This time they did not release any specific information and there was a national conversation about how sad and oppressed trans lunatics are. To hell with the white Christian’s who were massacred.

Remember that car that plowed over a Christmas parade and indiscriminate murdered what, like twenty white Christian in Wisconsin? Those damned ford explorers man. Had nothing to do with explicit hatred of white people and black supremacy.

If you are just going to high road this, you clearly don’t understand what the issue is.

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I’m against all hateful rhetoric

But I think focusing on this point, actually takes away from tackling the issue of mass shootings specifically, since it is objectively an outlier

To the question that you didn’t answer, and I think you would agree with me, is that this individual was a mentally deranged person that escaped the radar, like so many others… which gets closer to the crux of this issue.


the counter argument, a BAD one, is that anti-white and woke ideologies create many more mentally ill sickos. or at the least radicalize the ones who do exist to commit violent acts. but thats not an argument against enforcement and bolstering systems to identify and stop them before they murder people. whether it does cause a significant increase or not doesnt matter, without the ideologies being prevelant they still exist and without radicalization from society can still self radicalize. so they need to be combatted pre-emptively.
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