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Aug 17 2023 07:18am
I wouldn't risk my life trying to help someone who was on top of a mountain, and I find Mount Everest temperatures to be cozy. You don't screw around with cold. Shit goes bad very quickly and gets worse even faster. By the time you realize you screwed up you're already dead.

Then again I wouldn't be on top of a mountain I don't see the appeal.
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Aug 17 2023 10:10am
Quote (Vastet @ Aug 17 2023 06:18am)
I wouldn't risk my life trying to help someone who was on top of a mountain, and I find Mount Everest temperatures to be cozy. You don't screw around with cold. Shit goes bad very quickly and gets worse even faster. By the time you realize you screwed up you're already dead.

Then again I wouldn't be on top of a mountain I don't see the appeal.


wow?? you said something reasonable???? .................im going to call a doctor
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Aug 17 2023 10:49am
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wow?? you said something reasonable???? .................im going to call a doctor


Daaamn you actually managed to comprehend an entire sentence? Great job! Amazing work. Hopefully you continue to improve upon your reading comprehension. :)
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Aug 17 2023 08:44pm
Regarding babun's vid: I think the reason that those westerners stepped over the dude was because they were not there to rescue anybody. They were just mountain climbers, they were not properly equipped for rescue. If they tried to help him, they would probably die themselves. That being said, if they didn't at least try to call for help (from people who were more properly geared for rescue) then yea it was gay.

At least that's how I understand it.

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Daaamn you actually managed to comprehend an entire sentence? Great job! Amazing work. Hopefully you continue to improve upon your reading comprehension. :)


which sentence?
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Aug 18 2023 05:44pm
Quote (Vastet @ Aug 17 2023 03:18pm)
I wouldn't risk my life trying to help someone who was on top of a mountain, and I find Mount Everest temperatures to be cozy. You don't screw around with cold. Shit goes bad very quickly and gets worse even faster. By the time you realize you screwed up you're already dead.

Then again I wouldn't be on top of a mountain I don't see the appeal.

I enjoy climbing on mountains and hills. I've been to one last week but instead of doing stupid selfies influencer style we ate our sandwiches and very tasty peaches on top. Common attitude is to great and to be nice to any person you meet along the way. You never know when you or they could be in trouble. Those people can share info with you or save your life.
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Aug 18 2023 10:49pm
Quote (babun1024 @ 18 Aug 2023 19:44)
I enjoy climbing on mountains and hills. I've been to one last week but instead of doing stupid selfies influencer style we ate our sandwiches and very tasty peaches on top. Common attitude is to great and to be nice to any person you meet along the way. You never know when you or they could be in trouble. Those people can share info with you or save your life.


I've lived in the mountains there's a massive difference between climbing on a mountain and climbing to the peak of a mountain. The air pressure is very thin the temperatures are unforgiving and the view is often worse at the peak than well below the peak. That's just in the Rockies which are decently shorter than Everest. Chances are you aren't getting help on a mountain top even in the shorter Rockies. It's extremely dangerous to rescue people from mountains. I don't see much difference between having a picnic and taking selfies. Either way you're only climbing it to be able to say you did. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that unless you start thinking you're entitled to get help if you run into a problem. There are plenty of examples of attempted rescues costing rescuers their lives. If you want to climb mountain peaks you have to accept the fact that you can't depend on getting help. Even if other people happen to be nearby. They aren't trained or supplied to rescue you, they're just climbing it for fun too.
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Aug 18 2023 11:03pm
I don't know how dangerous it is to rescue someone who got stuck on mountain top but I know that a mountain is huge, so it must be very difficult for rescuers to find someone. I guess if people carry their cell phones with them it's probably easier but back in the days without cell phones and GPS, it was probably near impossible to locate the person.

Also, I totally agree that people shouldn't take on such a dangerous endeavor and then expect to be rescued when things go wrong. Mountain rescues sound like they would cost a lot of money. If someone has used this service, I believe that they should pay for it once they are safely brought back. Taxpayers should not have to pay for people's rash, foolish, risk-taking behaviors. Same with how if someone calls the ambulance for non-life threatening conditions. The hospital bills them for it, and I think it's reasonable.
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Aug 18 2023 11:32pm
I can see the appeal of getting to the top of the mountain, but the process to get there is just extremely selfish. You put your life in danger for a little thrill. But your life isn't just your life, you have a responsibility to your family to keep yourself alive and not doing so is pure narcissism. That's why I generally don't feel bad for people who die doing stuff like this
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Quote (Vastet @ Aug 19 2023 06:49am)
I've lived in the mountains there's a massive difference between climbing on a mountain and climbing to the peak of a mountain. The air pressure is very thin the temperatures are unforgiving and the view is often worse at the peak than well below the peak. That's just in the Rockies which are decently shorter than Everest. Chances are you aren't getting help on a mountain top even in the shorter Rockies. It's extremely dangerous to rescue people from mountains. I don't see much difference between having a picnic and taking selfies. Either way you're only climbing it to be able to say you did. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that unless you start thinking you're entitled to get help if you run into a problem. There are plenty of examples of attempted rescues costing rescuers their lives. If you want to climb mountain peaks you have to accept the fact that you can't depend on getting help. Even if other people happen to be nearby. They aren't trained or supplied to rescue you, they're just climbing it for fun too.

Fact:
You need around 6 people to rescue someone on that path (to Everest and etc.). More than 6 people walked over him in that video alone. Nope, you can rescue people but you need the numbers and the equipment. They had it all but chose to leave him alone.
I also went for the peak of Monte Guglielmo/Gölem:
https://www.summitpost.org/monte-guglielmo-g-lem/994448

Granted, no Everest height regions but experience was fun and yeah, the air gets super thin above the vegetation area.
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 19 2023 07:03am)
I don't know how dangerous it is to rescue someone who got stuck on mountain top but I know that a mountain is huge, so it must be very difficult for rescuers to find someone. I guess if people carry their cell phones with them it's probably easier but back in the days without cell phones and GPS, it was probably near impossible to locate the person.

Also, I totally agree that people shouldn't take on such a dangerous endeavor and then expect to be rescued when things go wrong. Mountain rescues sound like they would cost a lot of money. If someone has used this service, I believe that they should pay for it once they are safely brought back. Taxpayers should not have to pay for people's rash, foolish, risk-taking behaviors. Same with how if someone calls the ambulance for non-life threatening conditions. The hospital bills them for it, and I think it's reasonable.


I don't comment about stuff I don't know, you shouldn't either. Very easy to be found out :D

This post was edited by babun1024 on Aug 19 2023 04:46am
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