France is just the best solution: all others are just too inequalitarian or too brutal. Unfortunately there's alot of populism all around against France because it's the most and well know one.

Let them test anglo-saxons, russians, or chineses... And cry to death ?

South Korea
Poland, Czechia, Slovenia, Slovakia, the Baltics, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria

Costa Rica isn't doing too bad, considering the lack of stability and economic development in its region
You could even count Germany and Japan, although those two were already among the leading nations in the world before the war, but still poor and run-down in 1945.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 11 2023 02:31pm

I agree that the main problem right now in these nations is corruption.

But how do you deal with corruption? If you remove the foreign overlords, you just get MORE corruption as you give them more power.

The solution to eliminating corruption is for these nations to have no autonomy at all, with Colonial rulers occupying every level of government. Over time, you start giving power back slowly while monitoring them closely. And if they backslide further into corruption, take over again.

Places being mined by a foreign company is better than these places not being mined at all

France has always been a great and very honourable nation, and countries should be thankful to have them around.

France and Britain were always the most honourable nations in the entire world during the Age of Discovery. Hell together they essentially invented the concept of honourable combat, giving quarter to captured soldiers instead of torturing and killing them, treating captured officers well, strict enforcement and punishment for war crimes, etc

Though today things can differ. Both Britain and France have degenerated quite a bit.

It wil be easy to cherry pick up arguments against France in Africa by doing time travel, but TODAY we already have few samples of how it works with China or Russia and it's NOT nice at all.
Once again TODAY: these entities have no internal NGO, Journalists, or simply popular opinions to expose the abuses or damages.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Aug 11 2023 02:48pm

They have degenerated more than a bit.
But when given credit when it is due.

The below three is arguably the best concepts that have been given to the world at large when it comes to governance.

1. British Administration.
2. German Bureaucracy.
3. Napoleon Civil Code.

As for combat wise and honor , if you are referring to the Western Hemisphere and how they treated POWS during conflicts , there is no question about it.

I wouldn't say the same for the treatment of India especially during the East India Company dominance in South Asia though.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 11 2023 02:50pm

I'm inclined to agree, that even today France and Britain will be the most honourable and transparent foreign overlords

The way I see it is basically: Nigeriens are currently not very happy with France, and think they could do better with Russian or Chinese overlords. Whether it will actually be better for them, we don't know, probably not

Those 3 points for sure. I mean most European nations have Napoleonic law today right? German military excellency is up there as well with #2.

In terms of India I think the treatment still wasn't as bad as most people say compared to other invaders, but Britain did not have complete control over the East India Company who did alot of bad things. It was better after Britain took over completely in 1858 - they realized that they couldn't trust the company to uphold the standards of the Crown

Especially compared to Belgium and their atrocities in the Congo... France and Britain were so much better

I agree to this statement. India has only been invaded by Britain throughout history I believe...and maybe one or two other Western nations.

Yup basically the entire Europe adopted the Napoleonic law, but they did minor modifications and call it maybe the Italian civil code for example. But the gist is based on the Napoleonic Code.
All these were discussed in dept in Fukuyama's Political Order and Political Decay

Another guy which I am slowly getting into which I think is one of the most important figures of modern western Society is Max Weber.
His books is something you should give it a try if you are into it.

Here is the link to him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Weber

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 11 2023 03:05pm

Oh yeah Max Weber is basically a god. Dude was way ahead of his peers intellectually. The Protestant Work Ethic is true!