Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 7 2023 06:00pm)

The parallel process seems to be lost on you. You're so resistant to views outside your own, are set on moving forward with your own decision, and are unlikely to engage in change as a result of people outright challenging you (although, to be fair, you did make a thread seeking perspectives). One would think this would give you pause to reflect on the nature of change; however, you seem to think that the very strategy that so clearly doesn't work for you would then work for your sister.

Why you would ask for different perspectives only to tell those who express a view different than your own to "go back to their cellars" is beyond me.

Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 7 2023 09:07am)

I didn't ask for normaliying extreme views, I asked how to tell a deluded person they're wrong or whether I should tell her at all.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 7 2023 06:08pm)

And what I'm saying is that your approach/conceptualization is antithetical to how people actually experience change.

Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 7 2023 10:46am)

Nope, you've got MSM and all ugly feminists reaffirming each other over and over "we don't need no man". Someone has to act as a counterbalance. I don't expect her to change her view at all. She'll just get to know there is another perspective. The change has to do with her only and only her can do that.
If you don't give a fuck about your close relatives, that's your business.

Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 7 2023 10:46am)

Nope, you've got MSM and all ugly feminists reaffirming each other over and over "we don't need no man". Someone has to act as a counterbalance. I don't expect her or to change her view at all. She'll just get to know there is another perspective. The change has to do with her only and only she can do that.
If you don't give a fuck about your close relatives, that's your business.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 7 2023 12:57pm)

You seem to conflate not wanting to force change with "not caring about your close relatives".

I'd encourage you to look into things like Motivational Interviewing if you're actually interested in something with efficacy.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 7 2023 11:06am)

some people's egos will not let them accept they can't make a change happen that they want to see happen. OP is solidly in that camp, radicalized against "modern feminism" (as if crazy cat ladies arent a tale as old as time) and sees a chance right in his own life to fight it. he can't turn back.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 7 2023 01:12pm)

Indeed. And what an interesting dynamic when one anticipates others being so receptive to differing perspectives, while entirely resistant for themselves. Rules for thee, but not for me.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 7 2023 11:14am)

big time "i can fuck her straight" energy, people legit have main character energy turned to eleven. my kink is watching them be humbled.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 7 2023 01:16pm)

No doubt. It reminds me of the family members who send their loved one to therapy for me/my colleagues to "fix" them.