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May 8 2023 11:34am
helicope corn-cobbing all over this thread, lol. fascist tears best tears...
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May 8 2023 11:36am
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helicope corn-cobbing all over this thread, lol. fascist tears best tears...


Is that a "No" on my request to see the said patch on the body of the latino shooter ?
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May 8 2023 11:38am
some journo 'believes' its white supremacy because they googled it and found a definition on urban dictionary

so now its somehow white people's fault that a mexican(?) shot some white people.

RWDS has nothing to do with race.

Its wrong to murder people regardless of motivation or whatever patch you are wearing.
And no that doesnt make it ok to advocate for the government to attack other innocent people and confiscate their means of self defense.

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May 8 2023 11:42am
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being in a neo-nazi group necessitates having neo-nazi beliefs.....lol


And who is in a neo nazi group? The folks who volunteer to fight for ukraine?

The proud boys are explicitly anti-racist western chauvinists. They wouldn't be a bunch of black, hispanic, asian and pacific islanders if they were nazis. There are a whole plethora of fringe political ideologies and they aren't interchangeable. Communists, islamists and militant trannies might all be grouped together in the "left" but that doesn't make them all the same groups. One lops the heads off the other.

Likewise there are extremists political ideologies the shooter in this case might have had, which can't be conflated with unrelated groups of opposing beliefs. Its still pretty speculative as to motive since attacking a shopping mall doesn't serve any political objective, so it might have as much to do with this guys hispanic prison gang affiliations.
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May 8 2023 11:49am
It is however telling what amazing leaps to conclusions we get in stories like this, where theres no real safe conclusion to draw yet, while the trans shooter's manifesto is being suppressed to the point its actually now a lawsuit over the FOIA to get the FBI to admit the shooters motive in that case

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12054785/National-Police-Association-sues-make-trans-Nashville-shooter-Audrey-Hales-manifesto-public.html

like pulling teeth

but hell in the minutes after the hispanic guy plowed into the (illegal?) immigrants waiting in texas, we already had """law enforcement sources""" reported by the MSM saying it was intentional and a hate crime. Now looks like a drunk driver
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May 8 2023 11:54am
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And who is in a neo nazi group? The folks who volunteer to fight for ukraine?

The proud boys are explicitly anti-racist western chauvinists. They wouldn't be a bunch of black, hispanic, asian and pacific islanders if they were nazis. There are a whole plethora of fringe political ideologies and they aren't interchangeable. Communists, islamists and militant trannies might all be grouped together in the "left" but that doesn't make them all the same groups. One lops the heads off the other.

Likewise there are extremists political ideologies the shooter in this case might have had, which can't be conflated with unrelated groups of opposing beliefs. Its still pretty speculative as to motive since attacking a shopping mall doesn't serve any political objective, so it might have as much to do with this guys hispanic prison gang affiliations.


islamists are ultra-conservative, RIGHT wing muslims, lol. no one considers them "the left" except far right hacks, who don't reject them because of their ideals (which are pretty much the same), but simply because of their ethnicity and religion.
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islamists are ultra-conservative, RIGHT wing muslims, lol. no one considers them "the left" except far right hacks, who don't reject them because of their ideals (which are pretty much the same), but simply because of their ethnicity and religion.


Islamists are 99.99% allied with the left. The vote exclusively for democrats, they are represented exclusively by democrats. The nation of islam and its allies like Keith Ellison and fellow travelers like Ilhan Omar are not "RIGHT wing muslims". Not only are they the left, they are the FAR left.
Ideology and social regressivism is not obstacle. The same regressive islamic community that opposes homosexuality is universally aligned with the democrats
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May 8 2023 12:05pm
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islamists are ultra-conservative, RIGHT wing muslims, lol. no one considers them "the left"


Reality disagrees

The radical left (mainstream left-wing) has extensively used Islamists as allies in Europe & USA

The radical left (mainstream left-wing) has created & popularised the single biggest defense tactic against any critique of Islamists - the term "Islamophobia"

A term so effective at marginalising any critique or Islamist left-wing allies, that the left-wing echo chamber has shown time and time again that they are now trained to accept Islamic barbarism out of fear of being labelled that term.

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May 8 2023 12:10pm
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Islamists are 99.99% allied with the left. The vote exclusively for democrats, they are represented exclusively by democrats. The nation of islam and its allies like Keith Ellison and fellow travelers like Ilhan Omar are not "RIGHT wing muslims". Not only are they the left, they are the FAR left.
Ideology and social regressivism is not obstacle. The same regressive islamic community that opposes homosexuality is universally aligned with the democrats


completely ridiculous. islamists are 100% conservative muslims. you're "confusing" (deliberately mixing up) lefties who happen to be MUSLIM with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism

your attempt to paint them as "allied" / "aligned" with "the left" just shows how clueless / disingenuous you are. not every muslim is an "islamist", you know? actual islamists are fudamentalist RIGHT wingers. just because republicans hate every muslim and thus muslims tend to vote democrat doesn't mean their ideals become magically "lefty" / progressive, lol.

nice mental gymnastics though...
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May 8 2023 12:10pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 8 2023 12:49pm)
It is however telling what amazing leaps to conclusions we get in stories like this, where theres no real safe conclusion to draw yet, while the trans shooter's manifesto is being suppressed to the point its actually now a lawsuit over the FOIA to get the FBI to admit the shooters motive in that case

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12054785/National-Police-Association-sues-make-trans-Nashville-shooter-Audrey-Hales-manifesto-public.html

like pulling teeth

but hell in the minutes after the hispanic guy plowed into the (illegal?) immigrants waiting in texas, we already had """law enforcement sources""" reported by the MSM saying it was intentional and a hate crime. Now looks like a drunk driver


This is of course true, however ‘shills gonna shill’ as they say. It really is interesting how fast certain intel gets out versus intel being suppressed when it doesn’t fit the MSM’s agenda. Like with the trans terrorist who shot up the Christian school.
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