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Apr 18 2023 09:54am
Quote (thesnipa @ 18 Apr 2023 14:18)
ive changed my mind quite a bit on this topic, actually. the biggest issue is people reading sardonic phrases like "went to lunch" literally, like WAY too literally. i'm not NPR, i try to use a bit of panache.


in what regard? what did you change your mind about?

because your replies here are pretty much the same you made back in the other thread, down to how exactly you choose to frame your downplaying of her role in the anti-trans movement - before clutching your pearls about being taken too literally.

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Apr 18 2023 10:45am
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in what regard? what did you change your mind about?


at first it was just TERF tweets where she felt "her space" as a woman was being diminished. and even though that caused an uproar i thought the reaction was very unnecessary, doxxing and harassment specifically as well as the amplified coverage of what in reality is just a middle aged woman upset that "progress" of menstruation in the public lexicon was being reduced. and i was posting in pard when that happened, pointing out that while the position may be transphobic to pro-trans people, it came more from a place of old school feminist logic because she perceived the attack on feminist gains not as coming from trans people, but woke journalists pandering to a pro trans audience rather than trans people themselves.

then as her tweets became more about trans people's behavior i called out the shift, that she was no longer lamely playing the victim but actually going on the attack. a move some people predicted, that i said wasnt going to happen, and admitted i called it wrong. and realizing i misread i said if she keeps getting attacked she's gonna move even further right on trans issues.

then she started actually organizing with butch lesbian feminist anti trans people, and while i allowed space for that it was a step i didnt think she'd make. the upside is so slim and the downside so massive to publicly align. but there was no news of her joining marches or financially supporting TERF or anti-Trans movements.

then she released her podcast, which was unlistenable victimhood TERF propoganda, and i called it as such.

then she released that she's financially supporting groups that publicly lobby for NHS changes, and i said they were fruitless.

then i was told NHS already made changes, and admitted i missed that, and on a cursory review i didnt see that much that was problematic but asked for an explanation.

and that brings us to today where i'm still reviewing the effects on the NHS changes in problematic areas, while also reading up on why the NHS implemented them so i can assess blame levels for her TERF groups.

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Apr 18 2023 12:57pm
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Fixed?


no, normal people just cant deal with fake micro groups and their victimhood contest

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Apr 18 2023 02:21pm
I find it amusing that the "anti-hate" LGBT community has invented their own hateful slurs and spews them on the daily, e.g. terf
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Apr 18 2023 02:29pm
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at first it was just TERF tweets where she felt "her space" as a woman was being diminished. and even though that caused an uproar i thought the reaction was very unnecessary, doxxing and harassment specifically as well as the amplified coverage of what in reality is just a middle aged woman upset that "progress" of menstruation in the public lexicon was being reduced. and i was posting in pard when that happened, pointing out that while the position may be transphobic to pro-trans people, it came more from a place of old school feminist logic because she perceived the attack on feminist gains not as coming from trans people, but woke journalists pandering to a pro trans audience rather than trans people themselves.
then as her tweets became more about trans people's behavior i called out the shift, that she was no longer lamely playing the victim but actually going on the attack. a move some people predicted, that i said wasnt going to happen, and admitted i called it wrong. and realizing i misread i said if she keeps getting attacked she's gonna move even further right on trans issues.
then she started actually organizing with butch lesbian feminist anti trans people, and while i allowed space for that it was a step i didnt think she'd make. the upside is so slim and the downside so massive to publicly align. but there was no news of her joining marches or financially supporting TERF or anti-Trans movements.
then she released her podcast, which was unlistenable victimhood TERF propoganda, and i called it as such.
then she released that she's financially supporting groups that publicly lobby for NHS changes, and i said they were fruitless.
then i was told NHS already made changes, and admitted i missed that, and on a cursory review i didnt see that much that was problematic but asked for an explanation.
and that brings us to today where i'm still reviewing the effects on the NHS changes in problematic areas, while also reading up on why the NHS implemented them so i can assess blame levels for her TERF groups.


This post is pretty hugely out of step with your first post in this thread, where you specifically said

"but overall her "crime" even to very rabid trans advocates is hanging around with the wrong people."

Seems like you knew that wasn't her only "crime" going into it but still decided to frame it that way.
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Apr 18 2023 02:30pm
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This post is pretty hugely out of step with your first post in this thread, where you specifically said

"but overall her "crime" even to very rabid trans advocates is hanging around with the wrong people."

Seems like you knew that wasn't her only "crime" going into it but still decided to frame it that way.


Yeah i dont post much in pard these days other than short stints and try to stay to shitpost threads instead of war threads, so i come in and drop something hyperbolic thats a mix of a shitpost and how i feel then i just wait for someone to take it super seriously and respond if im having a slow day at work or just giggle and walk away if im busy.

so, thanks?
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Apr 18 2023 02:33pm
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Yeah i dont post much in pard these days other than short stints and try to stay to shitpost threads instead of war threads, so i come in and drop something hyperbolic thats a mix of a shitpost and how i feel then i just wait for someone to take it super seriously and respond if im having a slow day at work or just giggle and walk away if im busy.

so, thanks?


Glad we're approaching it with roughly the same level of engagement lol
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Apr 18 2023 02:35pm
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Glad we're approaching it with roughly the same level of engagement lol


if u didnt take a shot at my "centrism" and drop passive aggressive lines like "easily google-able" i'd have just said i was trolling for the most part immediately, but it was a very slow day at work.

overall i cant remember the last time i was serious in pard, fishing is more fun.
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Apr 20 2023 12:03am
People who aren't women are upset that a woman is speaking

I think that sums it up

Im sure science will eventually find a cure for for transness, probably a vaccine of some sort to help them accept who they are
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Apr 20 2023 06:19am
People who aren't women were upset that a woman wrote the harry potter books, and she was a "teacher" rather then some profound intellectual. How dare she be successful. People are now throwing stones (in glass houses) because she has a position that they don't agree with. I mean, if you talk to someone long enough you are going to find a topic to disagree with, that does not make either person wrong, but rather have a different view. And there is no reason to lose your job, or be vilified or ostracized just because you have a different view.
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