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Sep 29 2020 03:09pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 29 2020 04:06pm)
Who the fuck cares if Trump publicly pays lip service to a peaceful transition of power? What's relevant is that he actually does it when his time in the WH is up.
If he had actually been asked about it by the press in 2016, Obama would definitely have made this pledge, while at the same time weaponizing the agencies to undermine Trump.


I just can't fathom the stupidity that it takes to actually type this.

"Who cares if he is threatening to destroy the basis for the prosperity of democracies and actively sewing discord so he can retain power at the end of his term. What matters is we don't know what he will do then!"

Seriously actually read what you type instead of getting triggered that somebody would dare criticize your overlord.

and no, they were not weaponized against a candidate. You're, again, repeating propaganda. This just goes back to how if it's somebody or something you perceive as left it automatically gets more pushback regardless of content.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 29 2020 03:10pm
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Sep 29 2020 03:15pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 29 2020 01:43pm)
Yeah, Norms like saying he would commit to a peaceful transition between Administrations.

Those little norms that nobody should care about.

Pay no attention to the fact that officials on both sides of the aisle are pretty much unanimous on this. That's obviously just corruption


If Trump loses he'll be escorted out. Even the Republican Majority Senate won't tolerate any attempt to remain. If Biden loses, they'll encourage more riots obstructionism, then claim it's all Trump's fault.

It's too bad, really. They've shot the hostage. "We can't have our way, so it's time to burn it all down." We've been dealing with this shit for 4 years. The threat no longer has teeth, because it's already happening.

Does anyone believe Biden/Harris will restore order, when they've bailed out rioters? Does anyone believe Biden/Harris will treat fairly with anyone on the (R) side of the aisle, given Biden had no issue with US Intelligence and Enforcement being weaponized against a political opponent?

Dems overplayed their hands by locking down so hard over a cold, then allowing riots to burn down their cities, imo. I suspect that cities that have voted blue for 50 years may end up flipping. The kind of extremism the left has been showing is just way out there.

Would have been fine if it had stopped with the occasional antifa riot at Trump events. But this? Yeah, not good.
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Sep 29 2020 03:18pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 29 Sep 2020 23:09)
I just can't fathom the stupidity that it takes to actually type this.

"Who cares if he is threatening to destroy the basis for the prosperity of democracies and actively sewing discord so he can retain power at the end of his term. What matters is we don't know what he will do then!"

Seriously actually read what you type instead of getting triggered that somebody would dare criticize your overlord.

and no, they were not weaponized against a candidate. You're, again, repeating propaganda. This just goes back to how if it's somebody or something you perceive as left it automatically gets more pushback regardless of content.


My point is that it wouldnt have been any better if Trump had paid dishonest lip service to a peaceful transition of power without have any intentions of keeping this promise.

And yes, the contrast between the super clean image of the Obama administration and the not so friendly transition of power to Trump's administration is a prime example that this lip service is kinda irrelevant if it isnt followed through. The way Obama used the feds to undercut and set up Trump's incoming administration should be a bigger scandal.

Like I said, no one who isnt a Trump voter already will care about this stuff, and therefore, it would be a bad idea to focus on it during the peak of the 2020 campaign, but it's still true.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 29 2020 03:19pm
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Sep 29 2020 04:05pm
A followup statement from ratcliffe, in response to fake news calling it russian disinformation:



Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 29 2020 04:06pm)
Who the fuck cares if Trump publicly pays lip service to a peaceful transition of power? What's relevant is that he actually does it when his time in the WH is up.
If he had actually been asked about it by the press in 2016, Obama would definitely have made this pledge, while at the same time weaponizing the agencies to undermine Trump.


Ding ding ding.
Obsessing over form while ignoring function. Obama said the right things and did the wrong things. Trump said the wrong things and did the right things- well at least so far, I've learned to expect anything

And yes its also true that this isn't going to swing anyones opinions and people who aren't already supporting Trump will never even hear about this. How many people in this election cycle even give a thought to Obama and his administration's parting shots at the incoming Trump administration- not just a weaponized intelligence agency and vilification, I mean all the spite executive actions and policy changes and last minute regulations, and mass leaking by career officials and bad faith holdovers refusing to do their jobs. But if you turned on a TV in the past week you'd have heard a whole national news cycle speculating- just like they did in 2016- that Trump won't commit to a peaceful and civil transition. And Biden of course chimes in to declare he'd remove Trump by force.

I have to juxtapose that hypocrisy with this week's storyline of Trump being accused of "probably legally" dodging his taxes, just like... Biden did.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 29 2020 04:06pm
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Sep 29 2020 04:13pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 30 Sep 2020 00:05)
A followup statement from ratcliffe, in response to fake news calling it russian disinformation:

https://i.imgur.com/IART7er.jpg



Ding ding ding.
Obsessing over form while ignoring function. Obama said the right things and did the wrong things. Trump said the wrong things and did the right things- well at least so far, I've learned to expect anything

And yes its also true that this isn't going to swing anyones opinions and people who aren't already supporting Trump will never even hear about this. How many people in this election cycle even give a thought to Obama and his administration's parting shots at the incoming Trump administration- not just a weaponized intelligence agency and vilification, I mean all the spite executive actions and policy changes and last minute regulations, and mass leaking by career officials and bad faith holdovers refusing to do their jobs. But if you turned on a TV in the past week you'd have heard a whole national news cycle speculating- just like they did in 2016- that Trump won't commit to a peaceful and civil transition. And Biden of course chimes in to declare he'd remove Trump by force.

I have to juxtapose that hypocrisy with this week's storyline of Trump being accused of "probably legally" dodging his taxes, just like... Biden did.


Reminds me of this gem:




Before the 2016 election, Dems were all over the idea that Trump was wrongfully accusing the process as rigged and that he wouldnt accept the results of a fair election. When it was actually them who lost, they didnt even waste a thought on accepting Trump's victory as legitimate and instead spent 2+ years accusing him and Russia of having rigged the election. The Russia investigation was very successful, however, in the sense that it took a lot of oxygen out of the political sphere and significantly hampered Trump's political agenda.
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Sep 29 2020 04:17pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 29 2020 05:13pm)
Reminds me of this gem:

https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/its-not-rigged-youre-just-loosing-hillary-clinton-supporter-sign-fail.jpg


Before the 2016 election, Dems were all over the idea that Trump was wrongfully accusing the process as rigged and that he wouldnt accept the results of a fair election. When it was actually them who lost, they didnt even waste a thought on accepting Trump's victory as legitimate and instead spent 2+ years accusing him and Russia of having rigged the election. The Russia investigation was very successful, however, in the sense that it took a lot of oxygen out of the political sphere and significantly hampered Trump's political agenda.


what really got hampered in Trump's political agenda?
One of his biggest weaknesses in this election is he doesn't have much of an agenda to articulate because he's already done it all in one term

its not like they gummed up the senate and ate up the time needed to confirm judges lol

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Sep 29 2020 04:52pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 29 2020 06:17pm)
what really got hampered in Trump's political agenda?
One of his biggest weaknesses in this election is he doesn't have much of an agenda to articulate because he's already done it all in one term

its not like they gummed up the senate and ate up the time needed to confirm judges lol


First woman on the moon/First human on Mars beats whatever Biden is peddling
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Sep 29 2020 05:07pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Sep 29 2020 03:52pm)
First woman on the moon/First human on Mars beats whatever Biden is peddling


He's pedaling whatever Trump is pedaling that works, as well as a Fuck Trump agenda.

Also changing the Pledge of Allegiance to the Pledge to help Black People.

He's got this in the bag.
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Sep 29 2020 05:32pm
Man, you guys are so desperate for something to stick lol. Just be happy that if Biden wins, the country will improve dramatically and we'll still have a lot of right wing policies. Imagine if the candidate was Bernie or Warren and you lost. Count your blessings.
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Quote (thundercock @ Sep 29 2020 04:32pm)
Man, you guys are so desperate for something to stick lol. Just be happy that if Biden wins, the country will improve dramatically and we'll still have a lot of right wing policies. Imagine if the candidate was Bernie or Warren and you lost. Count your blessings.


With a prestigious 180 year record in public service, I'd assume he's pretty much bullet proof, wouldn't you?

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