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Oct 19 2021 10:24pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 18 2021 10:30am)
There's a myriad of reasons to blast Trump over his handling of covid, but hypocrisy is not one of them.


Do you ever get tired of licking boot?

Trump actively hid that he got the vaccine after touting warp speed as his biggest win.
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Oct 19 2021 11:33pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 19 2021 09:24pm)
Do you ever get tired of licking boot?

Trump actively hid that he got the vaccine after touting warp speed as his biggest win.


hahahaha trump is father of the "vaccine"
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Oct 20 2021 04:43am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 20 Oct 2021 06:24)
Do you ever get tired of licking boot?

Trump actively hid that he got the vaccine after touting warp speed as his biggest win.


Did he ever claim to be unvaccinated or talk down the vaccines? To the best of my knowledge, he didn't. So the only criticism you have is that he did not promote his own vaccination as actively and publicly as you would have liked.


Also keep in mind that he tested positive for covid in early October and then got vaccinated at some time in January, barely 3 months after his infection. That's at the lower end of the 90 day waiting time recommended by the CDC for the vaccination of previously infected. Afaik, this guideline to wait at least 90 days was not even publicly known (due to a lack of data or studies on this question) back in January. So the example Trump's specific case would have set for the public would have been based on incomplete, unfinished science.
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Oct 20 2021 07:00am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 20 Oct 2021 05:43)
Did he ever claim to be unvaccinated or talk down the vaccines? To the best of my knowledge, he didn't. So the only criticism you have is that he did not promote his own vaccination as actively and publicly as you would have liked.


Also keep in mind that he tested positive for covid in early October and then got vaccinated at some time in January, barely 3 months after his infection. That's at the lower end of the 90 day waiting time recommended by the CDC for the vaccination of previously infected. Afaik, this guideline to wait at least 90 days was not even publicly known (due to a lack of data or studies on this question) back in January. So the example Trump's specific case would have set for the public would have been based on incomplete, unfinished science.

imagine getting mad at Trump over warp speed, encouraging vaccines, and getting vaccinated, when harris/biden’s admin has more covid-19 deaths under their watch with the benefit of 3 vaccines that they have failed to convince enough the public to get. This might be a reason why:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-trump-coronavirus-vaccine/2020/09/16/2ffbea6a-f831-11ea-a275-1a2c2d36e1f1_story.html
Biden questions whether a vaccine approved by Trump would be safe

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2671NW
Democrat Biden warns against rushing out coronavirus vaccine, says Trump cannot be trusted

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kamala-harris-wont-say-if-shell-take-covid-19-vaccine-approved-under-trump
Kamala Harris Won’t Say If She’ll Take COVID-19 Vaccine Approved Under Trump
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Oct 20 2021 08:34am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 20 2021 03:43am)
Did he ever claim to be unvaccinated or talk down the vaccines? To the best of my knowledge, he didn't. So the only criticism you have is that he did not promote his own vaccination as actively and publicly as you would have liked.


Also keep in mind that he tested positive for covid in early October and then got vaccinated at some time in January, barely 3 months after his infection. That's at the lower end of the 90 day waiting time recommended by the CDC for the vaccination of previously infected. Afaik, this guideline to wait at least 90 days was not even publicly known (due to a lack of data or studies on this question) back in January. So the example Trump's specific case would have set for the public would have been based on incomplete, unfinished science.


Quote (excellence @ Oct 20 2021 06:00am)
imagine getting mad at Trump over warp speed, encouraging vaccines, and getting vaccinated, when harris/biden’s admin has more covid-19 deaths under their watch with the benefit of 3 vaccines that they have failed to convince enough the public to get. This might be a reason why:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-trump-coronavirus-vaccine/2020/09/16/2ffbea6a-f831-11ea-a275-1a2c2d36e1f1_story.html
Biden questions whether a vaccine approved by Trump would be safe

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2671NW
Democrat Biden warns against rushing out coronavirus vaccine, says Trump cannot be trusted

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kamala-harris-wont-say-if-shell-take-covid-19-vaccine-approved-under-trump
Kamala Harris Won’t Say If She’ll Take COVID-19 Vaccine Approved Under Trump


the thor dude makes chit up as he goes along

funny thing about trump at one of his rallies he promoted the jab and got booed
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Oct 20 2021 08:39am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 20 2021 05:43am)
Did he ever claim to be unvaccinated or talk down the vaccines? To the best of my knowledge, he didn't. So the only criticism you have is that he did not promote his own vaccination as actively and publicly as you would have liked.


Also keep in mind that he tested positive for covid in early October and then got vaccinated at some time in January, barely 3 months after his infection. That's at the lower end of the 90 day waiting time recommended by the CDC for the vaccination of previously infected. Afaik, this guideline to wait at least 90 days was not even publicly known (due to a lack of data or studies on this question) back in January. So the example Trump's specific case would have set for the public would have been based on incomplete, unfinished science.


Wrong. He actively hid his vaccination status even after getting vaccinated.

You are being dishonest as usual.
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Oct 20 2021 09:27am
Quote (excellence @ Oct 20 2021 08:00am)
imagine getting mad at Trump over warp speed, encouraging vaccines, and getting vaccinated, when harris/biden’s admin has more covid-19 deaths under their watch with the benefit of 3 vaccines that they have failed to convince enough the public to get. This might be a reason why:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-trump-coronavirus-vaccine/2020/09/16/2ffbea6a-f831-11ea-a275-1a2c2d36e1f1_story.html
Biden questions whether a vaccine approved by Trump would be safe

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2671NW
Democrat Biden warns against rushing out coronavirus vaccine, says Trump cannot be trusted

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kamala-harris-wont-say-if-shell-take-covid-19-vaccine-approved-under-trump
Kamala Harris Won’t Say If She’ll Take COVID-19 Vaccine Approved Under Trump


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Oct 20 2021 09:50am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 20 2021 05:43am)
Did he ever claim to be unvaccinated or talk down the vaccines? To the best of my knowledge, he didn't. So the only criticism you have is that he did not promote his own vaccination as actively and publicly as you would have liked.


Also keep in mind that he tested positive for covid in early October and then got vaccinated at some time in January, barely 3 months after his infection. That's at the lower end of the 90 day waiting time recommended by the CDC for the vaccination of previously infected. Afaik, this guideline to wait at least 90 days was not even publicly known (due to a lack of data or studies on this question) back in January. So the example Trump's specific case would have set for the public would have been based on incomplete, unfinished science.


Trump in recent news got booed at his own event for hyping vaccines, backed off and told people it's their choice but that they're good, then later after the event some time claimed he'd be better than Biden at convincing people to take the vaccines.

Trump doesn't really deserve criticism for lack of enthusiasm for vaccines among hardline right wingers, its the beast he created that makes convincing them impossible. he cant keep their support while instructing them to do what he says.

making a Suicide Squad political faction of people linked by their disagreement with the system is all well and good until you are the system and they wont listen to you either. Trump IMO will be better off as a sideline provocateur, but i selfishly hope he tries to run again just to watch him fail on the knife's edge he created. people angry he didnt stand up for the Jan 6th rioters, people mad he let biden stay in office and didnt hatch a plan, people mad he claims Warpspeed as a success, etc.
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Oct 20 2021 01:58pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 20 2021 11:50am)
Trump in recent news got booed at his own event for hyping vaccines, backed off and told people it's their choice but that they're good, then later after the event some time claimed he'd be better than Biden at convincing people to take the vaccines.

Trump doesn't really deserve criticism for lack of enthusiasm for vaccines among hardline right wingers, its the beast he created that makes convincing them impossible. he cant keep their support while instructing them to do what he says.

making a Suicide Squad political faction of people linked by their disagreement with the system is all well and good until you are the system and they wont listen to you either. Trump IMO will be better off as a sideline provocateur, but i selfishly hope he tries to run again just to watch him fail on the knife's edge he created. people angry he didnt stand up for the Jan 6th rioters, people mad he let biden stay in office and didnt hatch a plan, people mad he claims Warpspeed as a success, etc.


pardoning the jan 6th protestors was a good idea, Biden does the same to antifa and faces no consequences.
warp speed was a success.
a few people whining at a rally isn't indicative of a trend.
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Oct 20 2021 02:04pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Oct 20 2021 02:58pm)
pardoning the jan 6th protestors was a good idea, Biden does the same to antifa and faces no consequences.
warp speed was a success.
a few people whining at a rally isn't indicative of a trend.


an order of magnitude higher by percent of voters who are entirely against vaccination are trump voters, not democrats.

will it be a deal breaker for him winning? likely not. will the idea of a very real group of former supporters not liking him any more possibly throw Trump off and cause him to waste time addressing their concerns, imo yes.
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