It's not just his racism and xenophobia, recently this video surfaced too:



Back in 2012 he took his right wing "tax is theft" libertarian mentality (as I mentioned before, he signed the pro-tax haven and libertarian separatist manifesto "Per una Calaunya lliure i liberal") a bit too far, as he was one of the vocal supporters of the "no vull pagar" (I don't want to pay) movement that encouraged people to not pay tolls in public highways (it was short lived, as the few idiots supporting it soon realized that paying fines was worse). Here he is seen skipping a toll post, with his kid at the back filming it and laughing it off.

But yes, let's not forget that it's the Spanish government that is stealing from the catalans, not the people that refuse to pay taxes to the catalan government...

This post was edited by zarkadon on May 21 2018 01:59pm

there are no political arrests in spain no matter how many times many times fenderp repeats this false statement
violating a democratically approved constitution is a crime, period

uninformed authoritarian shills at it again.
some of the ministers in question (josep rull, toní comin, jordi turull, lluís puig) are currently imprisoned (or in exile) because of REBELLION, disobedience, and the obligatory 'misuse of funds' charges.

and since i know that facts and information that might not fit your chosen narrative are easily 'forgotten', i'll remind you that a german court, that obviously has no dog in this fight (if anything would have an interest to maintain good relations with spain and shift the responsibility to someone else), REJECTED extradition on the same bogus rebellion charge for the most prominent and STRONGEST case spain had, carles puigdemont.

so if even their strongest case concerning the bs 'rebellion' charge was destroyed by a truly independent court, it couldn't be any clearer how overblown and politically motivated those charges against lower tier 'offenders' are. but as so often, facts don't matter to the simple-minded right wing...

This post was edited by fender on May 21 2018 04:24pm

That's not true, they are not imprisoned because of "rebellion, disobedience or 'misuses of funds'", they are imprisoned due to a risk of them fleeing the country to avoid facing trial, like Puigdemont did. They'll be imprisoned for "rebellion, disobedience or 'misuses of funds'" when and if they are declared guilty of those charges.

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nice try though. and nice dodge on the fact that for the strongest and most promising case, those charges were exposed as bogus by an independent court.

They weren't? And again, they're not imprisoned because of those charges, they are imprisoned because of a risk of fleeing.

they were, that's why no extradition was ordered, specifying that “evidence of 'violence' is not present” concerning the rebellion charges. the real violence that was committed was that by spanish police forces against peaceful civilians - strangely enough not a single charge here...

and again, those are the charges against them, i clearly stated that in my post. that's what they will be tried for - so you can try to nitpick my phrasing, or outright misrepresent and twist what i'm saying, in order to create some kind of fake gotcha moment, but that just shows how desperately you're trying to avoid the actual issue, which is politically motivated arrests.

This post was edited by fender on May 21 2018 04:56pm

talking about uninformed
an actually informed person would know that nothing has been rejected so far and he is under investigation

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/carles-puigdemont-gericht-lehnt-auslieferungshaft-ab-a-1208888.html

as it happens we get an update just today and attorney general DOES think that puigdemont should face extradition for "rebellion"
the article also mentioned that spain has delivered more proof and refers to the violent outrages and attacks on police officers

nice fake news once again, typical fenderp

so much for a "bs charge", are you really that stupid?
inb4 the schleswig holstein attorney general is an authoritarian right winger



too bad that this is simply fake news

This post was edited by ampoo on May 22 2018 06:03am

bahaha... when you read something but COMPLETELY fail to interpret it. don't even know if you should be classified as 'fake news', it's probably just 'too stupid to understand news'...

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/carles-puigdemont-gericht-lehnt-auslieferungshaft-ab-a-1208936.html

"Bei Puigdemont bestehe keine Fluchtgefahr, lautet die offizielle Begründung, die das Gericht in einer kurzen Pressemitteilung verbreitet. Sie überdeckt, dass der Spruch der Richter für die Generalstaatsanwaltschaft und vor allem für Spaniens Obersten Gerichtshof in Madrid eine noch viel größere Niederlage ist, als es zunächst den Anschein hat. Denn der Spruch vom Dienstag zeigt: All die zusätzlichen Beweise, Dokumente und Videos gegen Puigdemont, die der Madrider Richter Pablo Llarena in den vergangenen sechs Wochen nachgeliefert hat - sie haben die Schleswiger Richter nicht beeindruckt.

Im Laufe des Verfahrens habe es weder hinsichtlich der Tatsachengrundlage noch hinsichtlich der rechtlichen Einordnung signifikante Veränderungen gegeben, teilten die Schleswiger Richter der Staatsanwaltschaft mit."


to justify the 'rebellion' charges (particularly the 'violence' required, which the first extradition request failed upon) they submitted three videos:

- one of some members of the catalonian regional police forces having a short stand-off (non violent) with spanish police, who were trying to charge a crowd of civilians
- two of singular incidents of protesters, one raising a chair, and one a barrier against police.

none of them features puigdemont, and he ofc did NOT call for or cause any violence - how anyone in their right mind can even dispute that point is beyond me. even spanish lawyers warned that the spanish ministry of justice would be making a fool of itself by pursuing this charge - and it sure did.

i mean, just let that sink in for a moment: the spanish police violently charged in (and there is PLENTY of evidence for that, literally HUNDREDS of videos and pictures), attacked peaceful civilians, amongst them many women and elderly, and injured hundreds - yet the ministry of justice is exclusively charging catalonian authorities for VIOLENT rebellion, while not ONE of the police officers is being held accountable. couldn't get any more ridiculous really...

so much for the actual 'proof' (the best one spain could produce in all the months since the referendum), that was once again found entirely insufficient by the judge. concerning the attorney general's motivation, i already pointed out that 'if anything [he] would have an interest to maintain good relations with spain and shift the responsibility to someone else' - somewhat understandable, but like the charges against puigdemont, clearly politically motivated.

This post was edited by fender on May 22 2018 10:17am