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Nov 6 2024 04:48pm
Quote (zorzin @ 6 Nov 2024 14:20)
Inside Trump's plan for mass deportations - and who wants to stop him
Donald Trump is expected to mobilize agencies across the U.S. government to help him deport record numbers of immigrants
Trump backers - including some who could enter his second administration - anticipate the Republican president-elect will call on everyone from the U.S. military to diplomats overseas to turn his campaign promise of mass deportations into a reality. The effort would include cooperation with Republican-led states and use federal funding as leverage against resistant jurisdictions.

But a deportation operation targeting millions would require many more officers, detention beds and immigration court judges. American Immigration Council, an immigrant advocacy group, estimated the cost of deporting 13 million immigrants in the U.S. illegally as $968 billion over a little more than a decade.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/inside-trumps-plan-mass-deportations-who-wants-stop-him-2024-11-06/

Yay or nay?


Yay.

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Nov 6 2024 04:49pm
Quote (El1te @ Nov 6 2024 02:44pm)
No we use Frenchmen :lol:


hey I know a couple Quebecois and they do NOT work hard !
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Nov 6 2024 04:51pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Nov 6 2024 03:22pm)
not only the cost, but think about how much more expensive food will be when the majority of agriculture workers just disappear. real winning strategy for Americans !

https://i.imgur.com/Z7qW8yH.jpeg


We understand the economics of supply and demand of labor. But we also value legality, security and order, accountability, and living wage. There is no philosophical argument to support illegal immigration. I personally believe, and I think most Republicans believe (not nut cases like Fuentes) that if there's an important job waiting, we'd like it to be filled. But unlike you, we'd like that person to be held to account. Unlike you, we want them to not be a criminal. We'd like them to fully assimilate to the American way of life.
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Quote (Thebarba @ Nov 6 2024 02:51pm)
We understand the economics of supply and demand of labor. But we also value legality, security and order, accountability, and living wage. There is no philosophical argument to support illegal immigration. I personally believe, and I think most Republicans believe (not nut cases like Fuentes) that if there's an important job waiting, we'd like it to be filled. But unlike you, we'd like that person to be held to account. Unlike you, we want them to not be a criminal. We'd like them to fully assimilate to the American way of life.


we are talking about the costs of mass deportations, not the morality of immigrating illegally. pay attention
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Nov 6 2024 04:55pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Nov 6 2024 03:53pm)
we are talking about the costs of mass deportations, not the morality of immigrating illegally. pay attention


No surprise that you can't see the connection.

The cost of mass deportations is worth it to accomplish the aforementioned ends. But I'm also trying to reassure your histrionic ass that we aren't just going to purposely deplete the labor that supports mostly reasonable prices. You'll probably see much lower inflation under the Trumpenreich.
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Nov 6 2024 04:58pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Nov 6 2024 02:49pm)
hey I know a couple Quebecois and they do NOT work hard !


Alot of them are great but the French stereotype is often validated

I'm not too sure about now but a decade ago the cherry farm here used to pay French TFWs like 5 dollars an hour
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Nov 6 2024 05:00pm
Quote (Thebarba @ Nov 6 2024 02:55pm)
No surprise that you can't see the connection.

The cost of mass deportations is worth it to accomplish the aforementioned ends. But I'm also trying to reassure your histrionic ass that we aren't just going to purposely deplete the labor that supports mostly reasonable prices. You'll probably see much lower inflation under the Trumpenreich.


there is no 'we', i know you wish you were part of the MAGA club but you're not rich enough buddy. you're along for the ride with the rest of us lol

This post was edited by gnarjay on Nov 6 2024 05:00pm
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Nov 6 2024 05:04pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Nov 6 2024 02:53pm)
we are talking about the costs of mass deportations, not the morality of immigrating illegally. pay attention


Mass deportations are an investment rather than a cost
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Nov 6 2024 05:05pm
Quote (El1te @ Nov 6 2024 05:04pm)
Mass deportations are an investment rather than a cost


lol sure bud
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Nov 6 2024 05:11pm
Quote (El1te @ Nov 6 2024 03:04pm)
Mass deportations are an investment rather than a cost


how? immigrants pay into social security that they cant use, they pay income tax, they pay the same payroll taxes as everyone else. not to mention the cheap labor supply evaporating once/if theyre gone
its almost a libertarian-esque fantasy for you guys. you're foaming at the mouth to implement something without a second thought for the repercussions.

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. whats the argument for paying tens of billions to get them out of here when they are a boon for the economy??
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