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Why because he activity bad mouthed trump & got the vaccine?


Those are fine; however, he slandered freedom.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 9 2021 11:25pm)
I hope you realize that when looking at ideology and the actual issues (as opposed to things like tone and norms), then polls and scientific studies consistently show Democrats to have moved more to the left in recent years than Republicans moved to the right. :rolleyes:
The overton window grew wider on both sides, but its center, as well as the median voter, moved to the left, not the right.


Anyway, the key development here is that the Trump presidency supercharged and finalized a long-standing trend which saw the parties trade two sets of voters. The "socially liberal economically conservative" type, of which Arnie is a prime example, moved sharply toward Democrats while the "socially conservative economically liberal" type moved sharply toward Republicans.


Thor doesn't even know what Arnie's opinions are rofl.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 9 2021 08:25pm)
I hope you realize that when looking at ideology and the actual issues (as opposed to things like tone and norms), then polls and scientific studies consistently show Democrats to have moved more to the left in recent years than Republicans moved to the right. :rolleyes:
The overton window grew wider on both sides, but its center, as well as the median voter, moved to the left, not the right.


Anyway, the key development here is that the Trump presidency supercharged and finalized a long-standing trend which saw the parties trade two sets of voters. The "socially liberal economically conservative" type, of which Arnie is a prime example, moved sharply toward Democrats while the "socially conservative economically liberal" type moved sharply toward Republicans.


In order to be considered conservative, it's now a requirement that you believe that Trump won in 2020. Poll after poll after poll show that this is the most important characteristic of being Republican. Just look at who is being purged and who is surviving.
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In order to be considered conservative, it's now a requirement that you believe that Trump won in 2020. Poll after poll after poll show that this is the most important characteristic of being Republican. Just look at who is being purged and who is surviving.

less warmongers in power the better
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less warmongers in power the better


It's not just them though which is a problem. The GOP needs to be a party with legitimate ideas as opposed to strictly an opposition party. If they continue down this path, they will allow bad liberal ideas to flourish. How much longer will they be able to hold onto power by courting a dying demographic and relying on institutional advantages?
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It's not just them though which is a problem. The GOP needs to be a party with legitimate ideas as opposed to strictly an opposition party. If they continue down this path, they will allow bad liberal ideas to flourish. How much longer will they be able to hold onto power by courting a dying demographic and relying on institutional advantages?


This is fucked up, you should be ashamed. Literal Godwin's law nazi propagandra from your mouth.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Oct 10 2021 08:51pm)
This is fucked up, you should be ashamed. Literal Godwin's law nazi propagandra from your mouth.


Well, maybe they shouldn't do so much heroin then.

How many times has your side won the popular vote in the past 30 years? Like I said, you can't rely on institutional advantages forever.
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Quote (thundercock @ 10 Oct 2021 23:45)
It's not just them though which is a problem. The GOP needs to be a party with legitimate ideas as opposed to strictly an opposition party. If they continue down this path, they will allow bad liberal ideas to flourish. How much longer will they be able to hold onto power by courting a dying demographic and relying on institutional advantages?

the less warmongers notion goes for all of the political spectrum

as people flourish they often will find value in the traditional ideas and values of protecting one’s family and fruits of their labor. the issues around taxation center on quality of spending. charity is still the best way to “change the world” in a manner one sees fit. these parameters are not bound by race or creed or education level. sadly the GOPe no longer has these ideals or ideas.

the GOPe sucks - and they doubled-down by aligning with lefties with bad ideas all to beat the boogeyman

This post was edited by excellence on Oct 10 2021 10:15pm
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Quote (thundercock @ Oct 11 2021 12:03am)
Well, maybe they shouldn't do so much heroin then.

How many times has your side won the popular vote in the past 30 years? Like I said, you can't rely on institutional advantages forever.


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