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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 9 2021 10:19pm)
Arnie is functionally a Democrat in 2021.


Not because he's changed his positions in any meaningful sense. Republicans have just shoved themselves so far to the right that "Democrat" now functionally means "anybody who isn't a fringe loony".
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Bruh you literally posted the worst offender when it comes to a republican introducing a gas guzzler to the public :rofl:

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Not because he's changed his positions in any meaningful sense. Republicans have just shoved themselves so far to the right that "Democrat" now functionally means "anybody who isn't a fringe loony".


I hope you realize that when looking at ideology and the actual issues (as opposed to things like tone and norms), then polls and scientific studies consistently show Democrats to have moved more to the left in recent years than Republicans moved to the right. :rolleyes:
The overton window grew wider on both sides, but its center, as well as the median voter, moved to the left, not the right.


Anyway, the key development here is that the Trump presidency supercharged and finalized a long-standing trend which saw the parties trade two sets of voters. The "socially liberal economically conservative" type, of which Arnie is a prime example, moved sharply toward Democrats while the "socially conservative economically liberal" type moved sharply toward Republicans.

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I hope you realize that when looking at ideology and the actual issues (as opposed to things like tone and norms), then scientific studies consistently show Democrats to have moved more to the left in recent years than Republicans moved to the right. :rolleyes:
The overton window grew wider on both sides, but its center, as well as the median voter, moved to the left, not the right.
Anyway, the key development here is that the Trump presidency supercharged and finalized a long-standing trend which saw the parties trade two sets of voters. The "socially liberal economically conservative" type, of which Arnie is a prime example, moved sharply toward Democrats while the "socially conservative economically liberal" type moved sharply toward Republicans.


Socially sure, everybody moved that way, but not economically.

Economically Democrats went nowhere but to the right from the 80's until ~2015, and now they've only slightly moved to the left. The fact that Obamacare was authored by Republicans just a decade earlier and a real public option couldn't even make it through with a Democratic supermajority is testament to that.

Hell, it's considered far too "liberal" to even bring the rates from 2016 back, and the Biden infrastructure plan is laden with boosts to fossil fuels.



So you are wrong because you are cherry picking your data. Democrats still have a long way to go left until they're even close to where they were 30 years ago on economic issues.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Oct 9 2021 09:31pm
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 9 Oct 2021 23:17)
Are you telling me a Republican isn't actually concerned with climate change?

This is your “bible”



Al Gore is your idol. So are these people:

https://vineyardgazette.com/news/2021/08/09/private-jets-flooded-airport-presidential-birthday-party-put-strain-island-resources

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/kerry-defended-taking-private-jet-171410846.html

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/climate-activists-invest-property-beaches-110000244.html

You really aren’t smart no matter how hard you try. An absolute total waste of pale pasty lefty privilege

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This is your “bible”


Nah, I've actively criticized the media's handling of climate change related news for many many years. The science has underestimated the warming effect. When papers get published the scientists say "Worst model says X, best model says Y, average is Z +- this range". Media runs with "X WILL HAPPEN EVERYBODY PANIC" or they don't touch it at all because they took advertising dollars from oil companies for decades (Fox, CNN, MSNBC), but the real rates have been above that Z +- range consistently.

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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 9 2021 04:07pm)
Massive economic disruption that hurts the middle and lower classes disproportionately will happen no matter what.

Its not "higher gas cost or smooth sailing". It's "higher gas prices or 20% more of the earths surface including parts if the US and Middle East become unlivable".


al gore laughing at u

you ever going to notice all the "solutions" screw everyone forever but the rich whyte elitists.

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Quote (MrSK @ Oct 9 2021 08:21pm)
Bruh you literally posted the worst offender when it comes to a republican introducing a gas guzzler to the public :rofl:


arnold is a total leftie now. hes been seduced by the dark side
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arnold is a total leftie now. hes been seduced by the dark side



Why because he activity bad mouthed trump & got the vaccine?
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