Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 21 2020 04:09am)
Like i said we are no longer in 1850 (apex of old west) or 1950 (start of McCarthyism)
Today many countries have nuclear power and sub-marines, the World became extremely complexe, connected, and wealth concentration is reaching unprecedented levels.
Reasonable measures & regulations are necessary for health, education, and environment. Basically to ensure the cohesion and future of your society.
Trump is destroying your country with lies and division and you like this toxic milk. This is the dying dark side of US.
Traitors will be punished.
You've said nothing relevant. You've failed to address any point. Then you've pointed the finger at your current bogeyman.
Please show me where on the map Trump touched France in a naughty way, so we can get to the heart of your little feelings crises, kiddo. Until then, stop alluding to some non-existent knowledge you have that nobody else can possibly know.
You know what "reasonable measures and regulations" lead to in your utopia? Currently some 15% of China's landmass that used to support people is no longer populated and cannot be. It's been poisoned to a point where it can no longer sustain human life.
You don't tell people they can't heat their homes, or power their vehicles. You don't tell companies that they can't produce a product. Because that's an invasion of their civil liberties. That's attempting to enforce your will upon others when you have no right to do so. The US Government doesn't chop off people's heads willy nilly to show the world just how "liberated" they are. The US Government exists as a REPRESENTATIVE government. Where their decisions are designed to compliment what the people want to do.
So, from a scientific standpoint? If you believe that the old '67 Corvette Coupe is a gas hog that's an absolute pollutant, you don't tell people they can't drive. You incentivise them to purchase a Tesla by providing a tax credit that will allow you to purchase that Tesla at the same price getting the old muscle car would cost you.
You don't tell the person, "You can't power your air conditioner." Instead you enforce the measures that are the most scientifically up to date to ensure that the cleanest possible power is available to power their homes, and if dirtier power is used, deincentivise (tax) it's heavy usage.
The problem with you communist types is that you think you can simply point the finger at 330 million people and say, "Don't do this." and it'll accomplish anything.
Fact: If every man, woman, and child in the United States of America ceased to exist today, all our production and activity stopped worldwide, the impact on the climate overall would be less than 0.3%. We're not a major violater.
Fact: If the US removed all troops and bases from overseas, multiple wars would flare back up, multiple (enforced) peace agreements would almost instantly vanish.
Fact: If the US decides that covid "is just a cold" then it'll probably be years (if ever) before a legitimate vaccine is ever produced.
Fact: The United States is not "the big evil". And civics, a set of courses designed to teach you all the GOOD your nation has done, all the GOOD your nation is currently doing, and why you should be PROUD to not only be a part of, but to help further the GOOD that your nation represents is a VERY GOOD thing. Critical theory is designed to create a victim narrative, where any form of nation or state is terrible, and all of life is about victimhood. And the fact that you've bought into that line of horse shit hook, line, and sinker is why you, as a Frenchy, are so concerned about the United States, that our President is more important to you over 6000 km away than the actions and decisions of your own government.