you dont nuke a place you plan to colonize, ya dingus !

We are more into turning the place to a parking lot. We don’t loot.. we are not savages.

There is video footage of the attack in Jerusalem circulating on twitter
I counted about 10-15 seconds between when the gunmen jump out of a car and start shooting people, to the attackers being riddled with bullets as they try to take cover. They managed to kill 3+ people and wound 11 in a few seconds, but were almost instantly taken down
That's pretty much been the normal story of shooting/ramming/etc attacks by Palestinians pre-October 7th, the few isolated raids where they lived to escape back with a hostage were extremely few and far between, it was mostly these suicide attacks ended in a few seconds.


The other new point of contention is that todays latest round of "released hostages" is supposed to be only 8 live captives and 3 bodies of those already executed. The hamas argument yesterday was that they released 12 hostages instead of 10, with the 2 extra russians being a token for Putin. And then today they're releasing only 8, rescinding that gesture and saying it counts against the total. Israel isn't going to label this Hamas breaking the terms as cause to renege on the agreement, but it definitely shows Hamas reaching the end of the original ceasefire with a shit move, while the renewed indeterminate pause continues for negotations.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Nov 30 2023 03:15am

Clock is ticking

it was a yes or no question.

Hamas took responsibility for the shooting in Jerusalem.
One hand signs a truce the other stabbing you in the back

Nice find, but we have to take care the journalist may do that in order to only accuse Bibi while alot, alot, of others are implicated.

What really annoys me is that no one is willing to give yes / no answers, or even a yes / no answer with a caveat. it is pathetic. I have repeatedly demonstrated i will give yes / no answers and all i get in response to my own questions is deflection.



This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 30 2023 07:14am

What was the question?
If you’re talking about the article.
Than its not a yes or no question
Some elements are right like the division between Gaza and West bank.
But Netanyahu didnt support Hamas thats simply crazy

This post was edited by Many_Names on Nov 30 2023 07:17am

He was asking you if an article was factual, as he wants to frame the argument in ways that suit his narrative.

His and other positions is that Russia launched a war, but its NATOs fault.
Hamas start a war, but its Israel's fault.

They hate the United States and ergo are incapable of accepting anyone other than the omniscient United States, NATO or The West more generally are responsible for anything they deem reprehensible.

Ironically their position for justifying Russia's full scale invasion is that geopolitics determine everything a state does. Essentially Mearsheimer rhetoric.
Yet when Israel behaves in a way that is geopolitically appropriate, those same people oppose that action.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Nov 30 2023 07:22am