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Feb 23 2025 10:49pm
musk and his fascists are so bummed

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And where do you think these "anti-gay" voters cast their ballot? With the CDU, whose deputy leader is openly gay? With any of the lefty/progressive parties which have embraced and outright celebrated queerness for years? If you want arch-conservative or even "reactionary" policies, casting your vote for the AfD or the CDU is still your best bet.


It's kinda similar to how Trump is clearly a sinner and not very religious, yet receives the overwhelming majority of the evangelical vote: he's still their best option by far.


They would go to the CDU generally - deputy leader isn't the leader which really matters, but I'm not saying that she was the reason that AfD lost, I mean that it just wasn't doing them any favours. CDU still has Christian in their name, if the AfD is aiming to siphon CDU voters (which should be their main focus from my perspective) having a gay leader isn't the way to go. But that's just an outsider's perspective on a political scene I know little about
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Feb 24 2025 12:47am
musk and his fascists are so bummed


Looks like he's having fun actually

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Feb 24 2025 01:44am
They would go to the CDU generally - deputy leader isn't the leader which really matters, but I'm not saying that she was the reason that AfD lost, I mean that it just wasn't doing them any favours. CDU still has Christian in their name, if the AfD is aiming to siphon CDU voters (which should be their main focus from my perspective) having a gay leader isn't the way to go. But that's just an outsider's perspective on a political scene I know little about

Afd hasn't lost. They doubled theie gains from the last time. A coalition between CDU + SPD is doomed to fail.
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Feb 24 2025 02:21am
The strategy of the AfD was never geared toward getting into government in 2025; their strategy was always eyeing 2029. Tonight, they doubled their result from the previous election and put themselves in a position of great strength, which will give them a good shot at becoming part of government the next time around.

All in all, the political left in Germany lost strength to the political right, the next head of government will be a conservative instead of a social democrat, and the AfD doubled its result. Make no mistake, this was a bad night for lefty voters.



That remains to be seen. In any case, we have now realised how dangerous the AFD is and that it should not be underestimated under any circumstances.

The democratic parties now have the chance to learn that in this day and age, many voters can be won over through presence and high frequency on social media. Content is obviously fading more and more into the background. The AFD has already revealed in an internal strategy paper that its external communication is not about a well-founded thematic debate. It is more important to them to use provocative slogans to put their finger in the wound of the old parties instead of offering detailed proposals for solutions.
It will therefore be important for the parties to remain active on social media platforms after the election campaign and to adapt to a certain extent.

I am also very pleased that "Die Grünen" will go into opposition this time. In a coalition with the CDU/CSU as the strongest force, they could only have lost. It is also possible that "Die Linke" will make even more gains in the future. In any case, this party has recognised the signs of the times.

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Feb 24 2025 03:06am
And where do you think these "anti-gay" voters cast their ballot? With the CDU, whose deputy leader is openly gay? With any of the lefty/progressive parties which have embraced and outright celebrated queerness for years? If you want arch-conservative or even "reactionary" policies, casting your vote for the AfD or the CDU is still your best bet.

Or they might choose to stay home…

Wow, that was a nail biter! According to provisional end results, the upstart left-wing populist party BSW has received 4.972% of the vote in Germany's federal election, missing out the 5% threshold for parliamentary representation by only 13000 votes (out of over 49.9 million votes which were cast in this election).

For how much international observers praise Germany's "stable political system" and deride the US system, it is bonkers how a 0.03% higher or lower vote share for an unrelated third party can have such a massive influence on the shape of the resulting government.

…and sometimes a tiny minority of voters can make a huge difference :)
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Feb 24 2025 08:11am
Afd hasn't lost. They doubled theie gains from the last time. A coalition between CDU + SPD is doomed to fail.


Is it? Considering they're just both sides of the uniparty, they'll be quite aligned and cooperative. Tweedle dee and tweedle dumb.
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Feb 24 2025 09:01am
Is it? Considering they're just both sides of the uniparty, they'll be quite aligned and cooperative. Tweedle dee and tweedle dumb.

SPD isn't center left, they are left. CDU is center right. They'll have to compromise again which is bad for a country which needs reforms and investment.
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Feb 24 2025 09:53am
SPD isn't center left, they are left. CDU is center right. They'll have to compromise again which is bad for a country which needs reforms and investment.


No they're not, they're left & lefter. Have Germans learned nothing over the past decade? AfD is centre right at best, more like centre.

Merz will just be German Starmer, I guarantee it.

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Looks like he's having fun actually

https://i.imgur.com/XucVNZG.jpg


this was pre-AfD defeat obvi
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