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Sep 10 2020 02:06pm
Quote (fender @ 10 Sep 2020 21:23)
lack of healthcare, obesity, poverty, mass incarceration, stigma through politicisation... just to name some of the things that immediately come to mind which COULD certainly impact the age distribution of covid-19 deaths.


Yeah, to be fair, I should have phrased that more precisely: I see no reason why the age breakdown of covid lethality (number of deaths per age group, normalized by the number of cases in that age group) should differ between countries.

Those factors you mention might shift the exposure of various age groups, and thus the distribution of absolute case and death numbers by age, but not the distribution of lethality over the age groups. For example, if more young than old people are incarcerated, then there should be more cases among the young, relative to old folks. But the actual lethality/risk of dying in both groups should remain the same.

Obesity rates should be higher in the U.S. than in other countries by a certain factor, but I see no reason why this factor should significantly vary over age. Say there are twice as many obese people in the U.S. than in Germany - do you think this number comes from 5 times as many young obese Americans than young obese Germans, but only 1.2 times as many old obese Americans than old obese Germans, or vice versa? I really doubt that.

Similarly, poverty, lack of healthcare and stigma should also be flat risk factors whose variation across age should be very similar in different countries. They should not shift the age distribution of lethality and just increase the risk across-the-board.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 10 2020 02:08pm
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 10 Sep 2020 21:41)
sorry it's not spam but i would just answer with this picture:

https://i.imgur.com/Wdiw4xU.jpeg


Like I already wrote, when you have hundreds of thousands or even millions of cases, you will inevitably have a few freak cases among them. Parading those cases in the press carries the risk of distorting the risk perception. There's no way around the fact that we need systematic data on the frequency with which those long-term effects occur, particularly in young and/or healthy patients.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 10 2020 04:12pm)
Like I already wrote, when you have hundreds of thousands or even millions of cases, you will inevitably have a few freak cases among them. Parading those cases in the press carries the risk of distorting the risk perception. There's no way around the fact that we need systematic data on the frequency with which those long-term effects occur, particularly in young and/or healthy patients.


95% dont have any chronic symptoms.
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Sep 10 2020 04:28pm
what i find amazing is that all the dumbasses who uncritically bought into every single corona conspiracy theory couldn't care less about direct and irrefutable evidence that their government deliberately screwed them over, leading to tens of thousands of preventable deaths.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 10 2020 03:12pm)
Like I already wrote, when you have hundreds of thousands or even millions of cases, you will inevitably have a few freak cases among them. Parading those cases in the press carries the risk of distorting the risk perception. There's no way around the fact that we need systematic data on the frequency with which those long-term effects occur, particularly in young and/or healthy patients.


Can't really get long-term studies before a long-term time-frame happens.

Something that's important to understand about fatalities is also that doctors are just better at treating it now and keeping people alive compared to March. So it's actually expected that we would see a significant decrease in mortality at this point. It's very likely it's real, but it's not because the virus is less risky. If the hospitals get overwhelmed those numbers will go back up.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 10 Sep 2020 22:12)
Like I already wrote, when you have hundreds of thousands or even millions of cases, you will inevitably have a few freak cases among them. Parading those cases in the press carries the risk of distorting the risk perception. There's no way around the fact that we need systematic data on the frequency with which those long-term effects occur, particularly in young and/or healthy patients.


heart , brain, vessels damage, myocarditis, "POTs" are not a joke you know.
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President Trump on Thursday defended his decision to mislead the public about the deadliness of the coronavirus as documented in Bob Woodward's new book, declining to call his misstatements about the virus and its spread a "lie" and saying he needed to show "strength" in the face of the crisis.

"I want to show a level of confidence, and I want to show strength as a leader, and I want to show our country is going to be fine one way or another," Trump said at a news conference.

"There is no lie here. What we're doing is we're leading," he said, insisting that America is "rounding the final turn" of the pandemic and that the nation had done "much, much better than the European Union" in its response to the virus. The U.S. not only has one of the highest coronavirus death rates in the world, but it also has a higher rate of infection than most EU member states.


So first it was fake news and now he finally admits it during a press conference but claims it was to show strength. :rofl:
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Sep 10 2020 05:49pm
Mass incarceration is the dumbest conspiracy theory in the world.

If you dont want to be in jail stop selling heroin.

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Sep 10 2020 05:53pm
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Mass incarceration is the dumbest conspiracy theory in the world.

If you dont want to be in jail stop selling heroin.


We should legalize the sale of heroin so dumb white people can die of overdoses.
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We should legalize the sale of heroin so dumb white people can die of overdoses.


Now this is the kind of thing I can get behind.
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