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Apr 29 2023 03:49pm
Quote (SP00K @ 29 Apr 2023 21:21)
There are varied opinions on if children go to heaven or not.


Wow so even children can go to hell or being damned ? Such a barbaric sect.
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Apr 29 2023 04:01pm
Quote (addone @ Apr 29 2023 01:43pm)
But buuut but old testament doesn't apply.... According to your boyfriend. Get your story straight rofl



As soon as you get proven wrong or it's inconvenient you throw in oh it's not Christian it's Jewish lol typical cop out. Either old testament is same God as new testament or it's a different god

Typical Christian list of cop outs include

It's old testament doesn't apply to Christians
It's a figure of speech or a metaphor
It's prophetic language so it's not real
Alternative reality
You don't know anything because you are not a christian
Irrelevant memes that have no bases in truth but are mocking projections to try make themselves feel surperior
Copy paste endless scripture quotes as a diversion/stall tactic
Whataboutism in form "yea but atheists are bad" instead of admitting the horrific stupidity of their teachings.
Circular logic "God is real because bible tells us, bible is truth because it's written by God"
"You are wrong" without any explanation or proof to back up their claim, only authoritarian statements
Just believe/trust us

Etc etc.
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addone dont know chit about scripture
addone claims to be the arbiter of scripture.
addone plants plenty of seeds doing his own part in converting people to christ
all very amusing

Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 29 2023 01:47pm)
You cannot reject the old testament scripture:

Jesus Himself confirmed the fact that He is in the Old Testament. In John chapter 5, Jesus explained to some religious leaders who had challenged Him that the Old Testament was speaking about Him: “For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.” John 5:46

You will need a miracle to heal from this slam


uh? ya? the old testament talks of Christ. ya? uh? Christ arrived as prophesied. um? slam?

Quote (Jupe @ Apr 29 2023 02:10pm)
what if they forgot to baptize the child with cancer lol, short terrible death and sent right to hell? or do you think he'd cut the kid he gave cancer some slack?


tell ev1 you dont know squat about scripture ..........thanks
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people must be looking at these hokey arguments. maybe there is something to christianity if the naysayers get this kooked out.........
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Apr 29 2023 04:27pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 29 2023 04:49pm)
Wow so even children can go to hell or being damned ? Such a barbaric sect.


Thanks for the diary entry, I'll write that down for you
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Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 30 2023 10:01am)
addone dont know chit about scripture
addone claims to be the arbiter of scripture.
addone plants plenty of seeds doing his own part in converting people to christ
all very amusing



uh? ya? the old testament talks of Christ. ya? uh? Christ arrived as prophesied. um? slam?



tell ev1 you dont know squat about scripture ..........thanks
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people must be looking at these hokey arguments. maybe there is something to christianity if the naysayers get this kooked out.........


"Doesn't know squat about scripture" but produces no evidence of how or why to counter his point.

Thanks Ill add it to the list of cop outs Christians use
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Apr 29 2023 05:09pm
Quote (addone @ Apr 29 2023 03:34pm)
"Doesn't know squat about scripture" but produces no evidence of how or why to counter his point.

Thanks Ill add it to the list of cop outs Christians use


addone the trickster is of the scribes and pharisees. insist that old testament law applies to christians.
in verse 7 Jesus said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
very much shows that things are being changed from the law to something else.

John 8:2-11
King James Version

2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.

3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
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Apr 29 2023 05:47pm
Quote (addone @ Apr 29 2023 08:39pm)
Hey doofus it talks about cutting foreskins though so there is that.
Also it talks about beating slaves, and children
Killing non virgins
Killing gays
Buying women as you would a cow after you rape her
Just to name a few things the bible talks about.

So you go out there and kill gay people for example? Because it specifically says to do that
Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Oopsy daisy! :wacko:


Christians are Christians doesn't matter which denominations they come from they all same vile bible worshipping scum. Catholics, Anglican, Presbyterian, protestant, orthodox etc they all touch little kids. Just like you.


Alright this has gone on long enough. You've proven time and time again you do not understand scripture and are not interested in dealing with the heart of the issue.

So now we will go back to the heart of the issue and we will not move on until you understand. It will take however long it takes.

Since I already have the source with which it has all already been written down, we can keep on referring to that.

Read this post:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79750090&f=119

I'll even post it for you.

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES.

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ is the Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died and rose again for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through trusting in what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you in faith.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS? ARE YOU WILLING TO PLACE YOUR FAITH IN HIM FOR SALVATION?

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

4. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, you could place your faith in Jesus Christ for salvation by praying a simple prayer:

”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I repent and turn to You, placing my Faith in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
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Apr 29 2023 07:51pm
Quote (CPK001 @ Apr 30 2023 11:47am)
Alright this has gone on long enough. You've proven time and time again you do not understand scripture and are not interested in dealing with the heart of the issue.

So now we will go back to the heart of the issue and we will not move on until you understand. It will take however long it takes.

Since I already have the source with which it has all already been written down, we can keep on referring to that.

Read this post:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79750090&f=119

I'll even post it for you.

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES.

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ is the Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died and rose again for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through trusting in what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you in faith.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS? ARE YOU WILLING TO PLACE YOUR FAITH IN HIM FOR SALVATION?

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

4. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, you could place your faith in Jesus Christ for salvation by praying a simple prayer:

”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I repent and turn to You, placing my Faith in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.


Realize you are a sinner... Stopped reading right there.

Realize you are making stupid and harmful claims with no basis in reality that are counter to free thought.
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Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 30 2023 11:09am)
addone the trickster is of the scribes and pharisees. insist that old testament law applies to christians.
in verse 7 Jesus said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
very much shows that things are being changed from the law to something else.

John 8:2-11
King James Version

2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.

3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.


Quick question is the God from the old testament same God in the new testament?
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Apr 29 2023 09:33pm
Quote (addone @ Apr 30 2023 11:51am)
Realize you are a sinner... Stopped reading right there.

Realize you are making stupid and harmful claims with no basis in reality that are counter to free thought.


There it is, all we need to do is convince you that you are a sinner -- a terrible, terrible person and that you deserve to die and go to Hell.

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.
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Apr 29 2023 10:55pm
Quote (addone @ Apr 29 2023 07:06pm)
Quick question is the God from the old testament same God in the new testament?


it is the same God. However, humanities understanding of God in the Old Testament was flawed or incomplete. Jesus guided humanity to a better understanding of God, if still incomplete.

People who criticize the Old Testament don't realize they are just being anti-Jewish, not anti-Christian. The New Testament overrides the old, though the messages contained within are still fundamental.
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