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Jun 21 2025 11:01pm
Also Americans do not war. The majority of Americans, Trump supporters included do not want war. No one cares about Iran. Iran is not our enemy. They are Israel's enemy. Israel is a demon state. Let it fend for itself. They said they don't need us. Let's make them prove it.


Iran is absolutely our enemy. What the hell are you talking about???? This is the same terrorist country that chanted "death to America" led by their leader lmao. Imagine those terrorists with nukes....

Some people are so blind to reality 😂
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Jun 21 2025 11:36pm
Just a question: If one country abides by international law and targets only military facilities, heads of state, and senior commanders, while the opposing country deliberately strikes civilian buildings—how should the law-abiding country respond?

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Just a question: If one country abides by international law and targets only military facilities, heads of state, and senior commanders, while the opposing country deliberately strikes civilian buildings—how should the law-abiding country respond?


Well the easiest way is to make up international law as you go along and say everything you do is legal and everything the other side does is illegal.
One country's war of aggression is another country's preemptive strike. One country's acceptable collateral damage is another's massacre of civilians. One country's sabotage and covert ops is another's terrorism and perfidy.

Wars can be justified coherently along the grounds of national interests. It gets a lot harder to justify it from some moral or legal standpoint.
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Jun 22 2025 12:39am
Well the easiest way is to make up international law as you go along and say everything you do is legal and everything the other side does is illegal.
One country's war of aggression is another country's preemptive strike. One country's acceptable collateral damage is another's massacre of civilians. One country's sabotage and covert ops is another's terrorism and perfidy.

Wars can be justified coherently along the grounds of national interests. It gets a lot harder to justify it from some moral or legal standpoint.



That wasn’t the question. I mean, you don’t have to answer - but it was a pretty straightforward one:
Let’s say, objectively, one side deliberately targets civilians, while the other tries to avoid doing so.
How is the side that avoids targeting civilians supposed to respond in that situation?
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Jun 22 2025 01:24am
Dear Democrats: Who's your biggest enemy now? White males? Heterosexuals? People who are skeptical of endlessly raising taxes? People who find furries and transexuals odd? Is that really still your focus after today?

Or the Israeli/foreign influence over both of America's major parties, effectively enslaving us to Zionist bloodlust no matter who we elect? At what point will your priority be liberating this country from AIPAC? Or am I just a "conspiracy theorist", as the bombs drop from US planes? Am I still your enemy because I'm a heterosexual male, or are you ready to prioritize what actually matters now? How much violence does the hypnotized American golem empire have to weave before it snaps you out of the petty wedge issues?
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Jun 22 2025 01:28am
"Mayor Ali Sallam of Nazareth is a populist figure who won the city’s elections by framing them as a religious conflict between Muslims and Christians. Additionally, by supporting local mobs and gangs, he has given them free rein over the city, to the extent that nearly every business in Nazareth pays for protection.

In Israeli-Jewish society, however, he is known and appreciated primarily for a video in which he shouted,
“Get out of my city, we don’t want protests, we want tourism” at Palestinian-Israeli MK Ayman Odeh after a protest in Nazareth. The Jewish population focused on this statement, making Sallam a popular figure despite his involvement with local gangs and the fact that his own son killed his wife"


Guess we can add Ali Sallam to your list of role models. Right up there with Borat, Ted Cruz, and Ben Shapiro.

But this is all nonsense, please tell us what's really going on. Zero missles, no boycotts, no protests, just sunshine and rainbows in Israel :blush:



:rolleyes:




So you can respond with personal attacks and tell us about your 3 hour gym sessions? lolol



What a gem :rofl:


a minor point

t4t and a pleasure betting with you.

I wonder what happens now. The chinese/russian response will be interesting. I don't see good times ahead... I wonder if it's time to sell all my stocks lol


Neither Russia nor China has a mutual defense treaty with Iran. No military action will be taken. They will of course protest in the UN, which Israel and the US will ignore.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 22 2025 01:32am
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Jun 22 2025 01:30am
Reading this thread has really shown me how freaking idiotic you politic heads are 🤣
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Jun 22 2025 01:31am
Dear Democrats: Who's your biggest enemy now? White males? Heterosexuals? People who are skeptical of endlessly raising taxes? People who find furries and transexuals odd? Is that really still your focus after today?

Or the Israeli/foreign influence over both of America's major parties, effectively enslaving us to Zionist bloodlust no matter who we elect? At what point will your priority be liberating this country from AIPAC? Or am I just a "conspiracy theorist", as the bombs drop from US planes? Am I still your enemy because I'm a heterosexual male, or are you ready to prioritize what actually matters now? How much violence does the hypnotized American golem empire have to weave before it snaps you out of the petty wedge issues?


There are many like you....but it is just too bad that America is being held hostage by lobbies for such a long time. It is what it is.
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Jun 22 2025 01:39am
There are many like you....but it is just too bad that America is being held hostage by lobbies for such a long time. It is what it is.


My instinct is that Democrats don't give a shit - it's still more important for them to push sodomy and abortion than liberation from Israel. To put it another way, they'd rather people in the Middle East die in war against the US than compromise on domestic wedge issues. Iran needs to burn so they can fight for abortion. Fucking demonic.
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Jun 22 2025 01:43am
My instinct is that Democrats don't give a shit - it's still more important for them to push sodomy and abortion than liberation from Israel. To put it another way, they'd rather people in the Middle East die in war against the US than compromise on domestic wedge issues. Iran needs to burn so they can fight for abortion. Fucking demonic.


that pretty much sums it up. but for the time being, this is irrelevant.

What is relevant right now is the notion that we are on the top of a slippery slope and our footing is precarious. The US has proven time and time again an inability to extricate itself from bad situations and rather it (and Israel) has a tendency to...shit all over the bathroom. we are truly living in the most dangerous times now. There is no threat yet of Russia, China or India getting involved. Russia is pissed, the Chinese are cautious and India is sitting on the fence.

i.e.

Russia: Seriously?! WTF man
China: Oh that was interesting, well I guess we just need to build more nukes
India: oh look at that, we dont care.

The key issue is what can and will Iran do, noting both Israel and the US will response to whatever that is (escalating the rather then trying to pull back).

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 22 2025 01:54am
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