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Nov 29 2023 11:58am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 29 2023 11:56am)
Source:IDF propaganda


feel free to disagree with anything with sources, im happy to read or alter my stance given new info.

the general response to "people in gaza hate israel and want them all dead" is "can you blame them" or "no that's fake". so which are you, just so i know what im dealing with.
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Nov 29 2023 12:12pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 29 2023 05:49pm)
now work out the political calculus there.

-Palestinians do not want peace, they want jews to die. not just hamas, gazan school children want it. (this alone dispels myths from the early part of this thread, where fools had the temerity to suggest hamas is unpopular)

-Israel occupies the areas they do, and blockades all of gaza, because the people there want them wiped from the planet. not just hamas, the people there.

-if given the power to vote, the muslim minority will outbreed the jewish majority, take power, and expel or kill all of the jews.


this is why when you criticize israeli policy, and i do too a LOT on the micro scale, you hear "we do what we do to avoid being eliminated". because on the macro scale it's true.

the only plan that will "work" imo, is for israel to give up gaza, hunker down in a fully defensive stance, repel all attacks that 100% will come from gaza, and hope over the phase of 10-20 years gazans will realize its a losing battle and work on themselves. thats a BIG gamble. you might endure 20 years of extremely troubling attacks just for gaza's appetite for jewish blood to never be quenched.

none of that excuses micro scale issues with israel, they can stop certain things, they can do better, and should. but criticizing israel from a macro scale is idiotic and naïve.


Gaza is not a country.
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Nov 29 2023 12:16pm
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 29 2023 12:12pm)
Gaza is not a country.


how, specifically, does that change literally a single thing in my post?

israel can't make gaza a country either. the international community makes country by recognizing their sovereignty, which they're very unlikely to ever do with an internationally recognized terrorist organization running the territory.
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Nov 29 2023 12:17pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 29 2023 01:58pm)
feel free to disagree with anything with sources, im happy to read or alter my stance given new info.

the general response to "people in gaza hate israel and want them all dead" is "can you blame them" or "no that's fake". so which are you, just so i know what im dealing with.

Lol I can just disagree actually, If you said the sun was made of cheese I wouldn't feel the need to provide sources "debunking" that claim either

The shit you are saying is the language of genocidal psychopaths, fortunately I think you are just extremely ignorant and opinionated on everything because you are Murican but yeah just so you know, that's how you sound to people who have actually learned about this conflict
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Nov 29 2023 12:21pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 29 2023 12:17pm)
Lol I can just disagree actually, If you said the sun was made of cheese I wouldn't feel the need to provide sources "debunking" that claim either

The shit you are saying is the language of genocidal psychopaths, fortunately I think you are just extremely ignorant and opinionated on everything because you are Murican but yeah just so you know, that's how you sound to people who have actually learned about this conflict


"you know less than me, i just wont actually post anything to suggest that"

the white flag comes forth! thanks. see you tomorrow. same time same place?
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Nov 29 2023 12:27pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 29 2023 02:21pm)
"you know less than me, i just wont actually post anything to suggest that"

the white flag comes forth! thanks. see you tomorrow. same time same place?

What's with you and quoting things that no one said? Is it some sort of defense mechanism to shield your ego from obviously true criticism? Fascinating behaviour tbh
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#6797
Nov 29 2023 12:27pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 29 2023 07:01am)
Youre are right we should have kept them
Out and not bring them back to their homes.
We would have much easier time now.


so it is a second Nakba and you support it, good to know
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Nov 29 2023 12:33pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 29 2023 12:27pm)
What's with you and quoting things that no one said? Is it some sort of defense mechanism to shield your ego from obviously true criticism? Fascinating behaviour tbh


mocking paraphrasing is new to you? what school yard did you grow up on?

you have 1 trick, and that's alluding to some base of knowledge you never actually show. you're a hobo with a finger gun in his pocket, we all know its a finger bro.

i was arguing against israeli mods in this subforum and calling them baby killers 10 years before you had an account, this account anyways. Do not cite the Deep Magic to me Witch. I was there when it was written.

the premise you use is faulty anyways. people who live in literal israel disagree with you, obviously they know more than both of us, but you chalk up our disagreement to what i supposedly dont know. so if i hop scotch your knowledge and go right to an israeli's knowledge, what then? then you'd find another excuse to just shitpost? surely.
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#6799
Nov 29 2023 12:39pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ 29 Nov 2023 17:22)
This is disguised, sneaky, hate speech.


Quote (Norlander @ 29 Nov 2023 17:27)
An inner voice read it with a German accent, a strong Nordic one.


Quote (gnarjay @ 29 Nov 2023 20:27)
so it is a second Nakba and you support it, good to know


They left because the Arab league told them to leave while they finish the Jews.
If we wouldnt allow them back after we won would have easier time.
This is completely true.
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Nov 29 2023 12:41pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 29 2023 10:39am)
They left because the Arab league told them to leave while they finish the Jews.
If we wouldnt allow them back after we won would have easier time.
This is completely true.


who are you to decide who can or cant live on their own land? the entitlement is off the charts
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