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Sep 5 2020 11:51am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Sep 5 2020 12:49pm)
Ehh.

I think its a shame people are missing out on the greatest parts of life.

First birthday, first Christmas, first day of school, first love, marriage - wont happen anymore for a majority of the population because they would rather get old and die alone with cats.

The true joy and greatness of creation.


Like I said, I don't take advice from people who aren't smart enough to realize they are advocating for their own extermination.
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Sep 5 2020 11:55am
Quote (Djunior @ 5 Sep 2020 19:45)
French humor? You guys are weird


Nothing to worry about when you see Ger or UK
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Sep 5 2020 11:59am
Quote (EndlessSky @ 5 Sep 2020 13:49)
Ehh.

I think its a shame people are missing out on the greatest parts of life.

First birthday, first Christmas, first day of school, first love, marriage - wont happen anymore for a majority of the population because they would rather get old and die alone with cats.

The true joy and greatness of creation.

little fella thor is a leech, not a creator, so these concepts are beyond him and his smalltime existence in the middle of nowhere

inb4 some repressed sexually frustrated homophobic comment from the little fella
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Sep 5 2020 12:20pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 5 2020 01:51pm)
Talking about politically incorrect and morally dicey arguments: it has indeed become a problem that the lower-education folks in first world countries tend to have more kids than the higher-education folks. The most crucial parts of society, those that drive innovation, productivity and pay the bulk of the taxes, have fertility rates far below replacement level in pretty much every developed country. Meanwhile, the decent but not particularly talented segments of society barely hold their numbers and the worst dregs are procreating like crazy.



Welfare, divorce, and alimony are dysgenic plagues.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 5 2020 01:51pm)
Like I said, I don't take advice from people who aren't smart enough to realize they are advocating for their own extermination.



Lying about my arguments doesnt better either of our positions in life.

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Sep 5 2020 12:37pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Sep 5 2020 01:20pm)
Welfare, divorce, and alimony are dysgenic plagues.
Lying about my arguments doesnt better either of our positions in life.


Advocating eugenics doesn't better anybody's life, yet you do it anyway. I expect about as much from a sick moose who can't hold down a job.

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Quote (EndlessSky @ 5 Sep 2020 20:20)
Welfare, divorce, and alimony are dysgenic plagues.


Welfare is necessary to appease the masses and thwart revolutions.

Divorce and alimony intend to improve macro-level happiness and provide the children of a society with a more positive environment while growing up. They are of course predicated on the assumption that it is better for everyone involved if parents from broken families go their own way than if dysfunctional, conflict-ridden families in which there is nothing but disdain are forced to stay together by social or economic pressure. A debate can certainly be had about the extent of these instrument and whether they might have gone too far in modern societies. You, however, are extremely biased and perpetually triggered by this topic and unable to discuss it with an open mind.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 5 2020 03:44pm)
Welfare is necessary to appease the masses and thwart revolutions.

Divorce and alimony intend to improve macro-level happiness and provide the children of a society with a more positive environment while growing up. They are of course predicated on the assumption that it is better for everyone involved if parents from broken families go their own way than if dysfunctional, conflict-ridden families in which there is nothing but disdain are forced to stay together by social or economic pressure. A debate can certainly be had about the extent of these instrument and whether they might have gone too far in modern societies. You, however, are extremely biased and perpetually triggered by this topic and unable to discuss it with an open mind.


All three policies fail and do the opposite of what they intend.

We live in a society of laws and revolutions are put down with deadly violence.

People like you can waver with illusions and lies of fear spread by satan. These lies do nothing to help society and only poison everything they touch.

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All three policies fail and do the opposite of what they intend.

We live in a society of laws and revolutions are put down with deadly violence.

People like you can waver with illusions and lies of fear spread by satan. These lies do nothing to help society and only poison everything they touch.


You wanna know how living in a country without welfare looks like? Look no further than Brazil and South Africa, where the middle class has to live in gated communities and have to fear for their lives as soon as they step into the wrong neighborhoods - which make up something like 80% of the entire country.

We can debate about the optimal extent of the welfare state, but the existence of a minimal social safety net is a huge accomplishment and benefits everyone.
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You wanna know how living in a country without welfare looks like? Look no further than Brazil and South Africa, where the middle class has to live in gated communities and have to fear for their lives as soon as they step into the wrong neighborhoods - which make up something like 80% of the entire country.

We can debate about the optimal extent of the welfare state, but the existence of a minimal social safety net is a huge accomplishment and benefits everyone.


I'm researching some history things, like the things that lead to the current borders of Europe, and some of that goes all the way back to Rome.

One thing I found that was interesting is that the grain dole was a hugely successful program that brought long-term stability to Rome and was basically the biggest social welfare program in history until the modern welfare state, and it only failed at the end because basically the whole empire was collapsing around them. It's a pretty stark contrast to what I've heard from conservatives about how "the grain dole ruined the Roman empire by breeding welfare queens!" and then you find out the grain dole lasted longer than the entire history of the United States.

Anyway the take away is that it's virtually guaranteed that you will need a welfare system to maintain the stability of your country for the long-term, and this has been the case for like 2000 years now.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 5 2020 06:32pm)
You wanna know how living in a country without welfare looks like? Look no further than Brazil and South Africa, where the middle class has to live in gated communities and have to fear for their lives as soon as they step into the wrong neighborhoods - which make up something like 80% of the entire country.

We can debate about the optimal extent of the welfare state, but the existence of a minimal social safety net is a huge accomplishment and benefits everyone.


Welfare didnt exist until 1960. What about the other 200 years of our history.

The single parenthood rate right now is 70%. Your policies are poisonous shit and the world will be a better place when they are dead.

Those two countries have completely different demographics and cultures. The only reason you even mention then is you want to assassinate someone with a sob story lie accusing someone of not being compassionate.

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