Quote (gnarjay @ 29 Nov 2023 10:25)

would you mind sharing? based on the words of the minister of defense, most Knesset members and Netanyahu himself, I'd say its beyond evident that theyre not being conscious or trying to minimize civilian casualties at all. short of nuking Gaza which they cant do, theyre trying to inflict maximum damage

I mean, look at Gaza now...your argument doesnt even pass the eye test

Quote (Goomshill @ 29 Nov 2023 10:09)

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6742 posts later and this thread is still splitting hairs over how many babies were decapitated, how many were burned and whether it was before or after they were dead
Was it 40 decapitated babies, or was it 5 decapitated, 10 turned into chunky salsa with point blank range rifle fire, 20 burned into unrecognizable lumps of human coal?
Still as delightful and not whatsoever myopic point of inquiry

I guess it raises important questions, like, which is the morally most reprehensible? To eat a living baby with a fork and knife? To boil a baby into a stew first? To mash a baby into a pulp by shutting a car door on it repeatedly, incinerate them and snort the ashes off a hooker's tits?
Or perhaps, just perhaps, hear me out, anyone still trying to make a moral distinction over the methodology of baby slaughter that hamas used, is missing the point. They killed a bunch of defenseless babies, there's no moral ambiguity or apologism

Quote (gnarjay @ Nov 29 2023 10:30am)

before I go, what do you all think about the IDF invading Jenin in the West Bank amidst the "ceasefire" ? they killed 8 people Sunday and surrounded government hospitals and the headquarters of the Red Crescent Society
230++ people in the West Bank have been killed since Oct 7. what will the excuse be when Netanyahu inevitably annexes the West Bank??

Quote (WhiteSouned @ 29 Nov 2023 10:57)

The West Bank is no different from Gaza in its ability to export terror.
When PLO fails to stop those activists, IDF must act to keep me and my family safe.

Quote (WhiteSouned @ 29 Nov 2023 10:57)

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My great grandfather was killed in 1936 by terrorises from Jenin. Btw. He was cultivating his fields which he bought with his own money.. things haven’t changed much.

Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 29 2023 11:15am)

What was the reason then?
There was no Israel back then.
I am 39 years old my family been here since the 1800s 7 generations that we know of
my brother in law family been here more than 12 generation they were neighbors of the Rivlins in Jerusalem
They can tell the stories of occupation to someone else.
Everyone have the same stories Arabs mobs came rape killed stole
At the end of 1800 when they came tried to convert to islam by force

Quote (WhiteSouned @ 29 Nov 2023 11:27)

Most of the local “native” population are work immigrates that came to work under the Othman empire. The fields were bought from sheikhs and the workers suddenly stayed without a job. That gave the trigger to start those raids against the new owners of the land.
Unfortunately my grandfather was an orphan in age of 6 because of that.

Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 29 2023 11:47am)

Now try to explain it to bunch of westerners who never has to deal with these sort of issues

Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 29 2023 08:40am)

They can say what ever they want fact stays people are warned in 3 different ways before a bomb is falling

Lost of a building isnt lost of human life

Quote (ferdia @ 29 Nov 2023 11:53)

Ye but again, it is easy to refute this, see here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/28/israeli-military-had-warning-of-hamas-training-for-attack-reports-say

i.e. you can warn ppl in 3 different ways but stupidity/arrogance/over confidence/human nature is the way it is.

also loss of a building, a home, has knock on consequences. through a serious of events, house destroyed, it is not credible to say that this will never result in loss of life in the short - long term.