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Dec 8 2024 12:28pm
Quote (El1te @ Dec 8 2024 06:56pm)
I think you guys deserved to be communist states

There is no fixing your mentality


#Talkingboutcommunism :banana:
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Quote (babun1024 @ Dec 8 2024 10:13am)
He doesn't get it.


Not in the slightest

These uneducated & barbaric Eastern Europeans must to be allowed to fail on their own, in service of their own human development. No more Northern Europeans to prop them up shielding them from their own stupidity.
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Dec 8 2024 12:39pm
Quote (Bananii @ Dec 8 2024 07:28pm)
#Talkingboutcommunism :banana:

Wrong choice of words, he meant to be under a dictatorship. Imagine annulling the results of US presidential election with a landslide win for Trump (we are talking 60% vs 40%) because of tiktok :lol:

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Quote (babun1024 @ Dec 8 2024 10:39am)
Wrong choice of words, he meant to be under a dictatorship. Imagine annulling the results of US presidential election with a landslide win for Trump (we are talking 60% vs 40%) because of tiktok :lol:


sentiment is *precisely* the same as what the reds believed in the Polish People's Republic. By precisely I mean precisely. His idea of "this is EU vs Russia" was "this is Nazi vs People's revolution" just a few decades ago. He wants a one party state. It's precisely the same. He's categorically a communist.
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Quote (babun1024 @ 8 Dec 2024 19:39)
Wrong choice of words, he meant to be under a dictatorship. Imagine annulling the results of US presidential election with a landslide win for Trump (we are talking 60% vs 40%) because of tiktok :lol:


To be fair, Georgescu hadn't won the runoff yet and he received just 23% of the vote in the first round of the election - which was enough to come in first place due to the heavily splintered field.

I've read an interesting article today which asserts that the court - which is aligned with Romania's old political establishment - annuled this election not so much because of Georgescu, but rather because of the reform-oriented anti-corruption candidate which came in second place. The gist is that the fear of the ruling PSD is that this anti-corruption candidate, Lasconi, would easily win the runoff against the obscure Georgescu and that that's the true threat they wanted to nip in the bud by rerunning the first round.

https://www-dw-com.translate.goog/de/rum%C3%A4nien-vertrauenskrise-nach-annullierung-der-wahl/a-70989473?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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To be fair, Georgescu hadn't won the runoff yet and he received just 23% of the vote in the first round of the election - which was enough to come in first place due to the heavily splintered field.

I've read an interesting article today which asserts that the court - which is aligned with Romania's old political establishment - annuled this election not so much because of Georgescu, but rather because of the reform-oriented anti-corruption candidate which came in second place. The gist is that the fear of the ruling PSD is that this anti-corruption candidate, Lasconi, would easily win the runoff against the obscure Georgescu and that that's the true threat they wanted to nip in the bud by rerunning the first round.

https://www-dw-com.translate.goog/de/rum%C3%A4nien-vertrauenskrise-nach-annullierung-der-wahl/a-70989473?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


I don't care why they did this. Whole Romania should be on the streets because the decision is undemocratic.
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Dec 8 2024 03:08pm
is Georgescu another word for Georgia, you know, where the US has for the last 24 months tried to create another Maiden (and they will succeed within 2 years probably).
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Quote (babun1024 @ 8 Dec 2024 22:05)
I don't care why they did this. Whole Romania should be on the streets because the decision is undemocratic.


Undemocratic, yes, but it's not like Romanian voters don't have a chance to vote for the same candidates again if they really want them. The situation doesn't really compare to the scenario you mentioned, a finalized election with only two major candidates in which one of them won with 60% of the vote...

I don't like what's happening in Romania, but I'm not really grabbing my torch and pitchfork over it either.

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Dec 9 2024 04:38am
Quote (El1te @ 8 Dec 2024 18:56)
I think you guys deserved to be communist states

There is no fixing your mentality


You do not understand anything.
Poland was pretty much democratic in the 18th century (by 18th century standards), but has fallen to autocratic Russia because polish people didnt see risk incoming.
Didnt build enough army to defend.
Let Russians bribe some polish politicans to have influence in our politics.
This is exactly the same situation we have now.
We have democratic Europe, and autocratic Russia trying to take over.
Its up to us if we repeat mistakes from 18th century.
While democracy is great, there are some risks as people need to behave responsibly.
And behaving responsibly means taking necessary actions, like the repeat of faulty elections in Romania.
Democracy doesnt defend itself without us, the people.
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Quote (El1te @ 8 Dec 2024 19:50)
^ironfister sentiment is *precisely* the same as what the reds believed in the Polish People's Republic. By precisely I mean precisely. His idea of "this is EU vs Russia" was "this is Nazi vs People's revolution" just a few decades ago. He wants a one party state. It's precisely the same. He's categorically a communist.


So you say that by resisting Russia single party state, I want a single party state.
Like WTF dude? Its totally opposite. What are you smoking?
Nearly nobody in Poland believed in soviet ideas.
Stalin made a deal with Hitler and they attacked Poland together.
Later Stalin defeat Hitler, so he took Hitler's part of Poland also.
Stalin gave us an option to govern ourselves, under the careful protection and guidance of "friendly" Red Army occupying the country, and polish politicans accepted it as an alternative would be became part of ussr.
That's it, no more no less.

This post was edited by Ironfister on Dec 9 2024 07:01am
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